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Old 12-23-2011, 09:28 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Who killed Senju Hashirama?

If we look closely on Edo Tensei we can see that all the revived people are just before they were killed, example: Nagato, Chiyo, Haku, ect.

So if Hashirama died in an old age narutal/killing reason he should have been revived oldy during oro/hiruzen fight. Tobirama Nidaime is a confirmation of this and he was killed after fighting kinkaku/ginkaku.

For the moment I haven't it clear but the only one that comes in my mind for the moment is tsuschikage sensei (previous tsuschikage).... MUU with his jinton.

Here we have a puzzle,

- kakuzu said to have fought hashirama;
- kakuzu have fought against/alongside kinkaku (his statement in the war confirmed this)
- kinkaku has fought nidaime
- madara has fought and lost to hashirama
- oonoki has fought madara (raikage statement but it's unknown if he was tsuschikage since then)

let's make a ranking from the weakest to the strongest here,

kakuzu-->nidaime hokage=kinkagu/ginkaku--->oonoki--->madara---->(lost)hashirama.

If oonoki sensei MUU was still alive then he probably must have been stronger than his student and probably a little stronger than madara, and MUU during a fight with hashirama ended up killing each other.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:57 PM   #2
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First off Tobirama wasn't killed by Kinkaku and Ginkaku. He was killed by 20 cloud nin who were being commanded by Kinakaku and Ginkaku so basically that takes their rating down a lot and puts his up higher. He was said to have been the strongest user when dealing with water techs and perfected a water tech that took over 40 hand signs to be able to use just 1 hand sign. No way is he weaker than Oonoki. He was high up there with Hashirama, Madara, and Izuna. The 4 strongest from their clans and most likely very close in power.

Dealing with Hashirama's death this in no way shows who killed him. However I like how you composed it and it showed innovation and it started out good and ended in utter speculation that went overboard. Hashirama was probably killed in the same way as all the other Kage by protecting them from some huge threat or most likely died from some fodder in the first ninja war. He may have also been wounded from his battle with Madara that ultimately lead to his defeat. We have no idea and it will never be revealed knowing Kishi
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Old 12-23-2011, 11:38 PM   #3
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IT WAS TOBI!!!!!!!! JK. ;-)

On a serious note, I don't think it would have been Muu, if it was I'm sure he would have made some.comment towards it, especially if they died in battle together, particularly when Madara was brought back,.Muu seemed like.the type that would have gloated, "you were beaten by him even with the kyuubi, I managed to kill home even tho I died too".
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Old 12-24-2011, 05:08 AM   #4
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Hold on didn't Muu and the second mizukage kill each other
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I think Tobirama more kind of sacrificed himself so he let himself be killed...
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FIRSTLY, the third states that tobirama and hashirama died of old age in his fight against oro..

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FIRSTLY, the third states that tobirama and hashirama died of old age in his fight against oro..

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Are you an idiot? Tobirama sacrificed himself.
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Hashirama Senju defeated all notable characters that opposed him during his lifetime. Hashirama died shortly after the founding of Konoha in one of the many wars that were raging during this revolutionary era, but not before passing on the title of Hokage to Tobirama,as did Tobirama to Hiruzen.
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Hashirama Senju defeated all notable characters that opposed him during his lifetime. Hashirama died shortly after the founding of Konoha in one of the many wars that were raging during this revolutionary era, but not before passing on the title of Hokage to Tobirama,as did Tobirama to Hiruzen.
Link please, I know that it was shown about niidaime, but could you provide the link for that bit about hashirama.
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I don't think it ever said anything about Hashirama doing this. I could be mistaken, but seriously we will never know who killed Hashirama. I think he just died from either wounds or his fight with Madara left him very scarred. I think that if someone killed the legendary senju then it would have come up from somewhere in this show.
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Link please, I know that it was shown about niidaime, but could you provide the link for that bit about hashirama.
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I don't think it ever said anything about Hashirama doing this. I could be mistaken, but seriously we will never know who killed Hashirama. I think he just died from either wounds or his fight with Madara left him very scarred. I think that if someone killed the legendary senju then it would have come up from somewhere in this show.


It had to have been aroun this time that Hashirama passed the kage title over to Tobirama. U can also go back to part 1, and watch epsiode 69, and up. The battle between Orochimaru, and Hiruzen Sarutobi. When the third flashbacks the history of the village. He also discusses the history.
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