Ippo Makunuoichi vs Miyata Ichirou

[Jon Snow]

Their current skill level as they are. Obviously doing it in the boxing ring and are going all out.

This is a toughie. Ippo's is one of the very few main manga stars I really like though I wish he would lose sometime xD Miyata is my favourite character. Not only does he play as the "snob" of the show, he trains even harder than Ippo and Ippo makes Naruto's training like child's play if you want to make the comparison. Miyata isn't even arrogant, thats just his demeanor So no hating please

Miyata takes this. What say you?

Oh yeah, OBD is fail in this case. Ippo's 21-22 years old now, not 17 xD Ippo also cannot perform counters as a special and they appear mroe so as near mutual hits with his opponents.

[NewPollution]

Same weight class?

Miyata has to work twice as hard to place himself into Ippo's weight class, which is his ideal weight class in general.

Ippo can always go 100%, but even if Miyata was at his peak, he can't give it his all.

You know Ippo has a hard on for Miyata though.

In terms of skill and overall awesomeness, Miyata has it easy. Ippo's pretty green.

He's awesome, but he's not the genius Miyata is.

Ippo DOES have pressure on his side.

Like, one Sunday Punch = ended fight and ended career, pressure.

[Jon Snow]

Yeah, thats true.

[J4Ks]

My bet is that Miyata will win. Fast and Agile as Wolli, but has more experience.

If Wolli was more experienced, Ippo would be KO'ed. As Wolli was on his learning phase in that match (didn't know the force of Ippo's body bodypunches, even if they seemed so soft).

[Jyu Viole Grace]

lets break it down.

Ippo is considered the best In-Fighter (Volume Puncher) of Japan. Ranked 5th in the World in the WBC standings (Guaranteed single digit ranking). Is also a Anti-Out-Fighter Specialist (though it was proven useless against Woli, cept Woli was hax with his jumping and ability to lift himself with one hand on the ropes..)

Ippo's Strength is career ending. Nearly everyone he's fought has either retired early (Samada, Shimabukuro, etc), dropped or raised a class (Mashiba, Kobashi, Kayami) or was forced into early retirement due to severe injury (Osma)

His Stamina is probably the only part of his arsenal that's worth more than his OHKILL Punch Power. If he can't catch you in the beginning, he'll manage to break a rib or three eventually. All of his wins have ended in KO

Speciality Blows.
Liver Blow (Rib Breaker)
Gazelle Punch (Power increased exponentially with leg and toe strength)
Motionless Uppercut (Used few times, acts like Sendo's Smash)
Bloodlust (Believable Feints)
Dempsey Roll (Sealed due to counter punchers)
Completed Dempsey Roll[Uppercuts + Stop&Start] (If overused, can cause career ending injury for Ippo)


Miyata is considered the best Out-Fighter (Counter Puncher) of the Pacific Region. Though he lacks considerable power and isn't naturally built for the Featherweight Class, he makes up for this difference in his incompariable hand and foot speed. Even without the ability of his legs, his movements often avoid most punches from his opponents.

Moreover, his timing is his greatest asset. In any situation vs. any opponent, he'll strike with consecutive counter punches until the eventual KO. Like Ippo, every win ended in KO.

In his training against Ippo, Miyata transform himself into a hybrid fighter, becoming an Anti-In-Fighter Specialist by combining the compact nature of an In-Fighter with the speed and footwork of an Out-Fighter.

Instead of aiming for Japan, at a young age (17), he went after the Pacific and is the reigning, defending OBPF Champion.

Speciality Blows
Counter Punch (KO capable)
Cross Counter (DUDLEY)
Jolt Counter (Career Ending Capable for both Opponent and Himself)
Jolt Corkscrew Counter (aka the punch that surpassed his father's counter.. awww.)

As much as I'd love to see Miyata and Ippo fight, it'll end the series, because people are reading JUST TO SEE THAT BLOODY FIGHT.

George proved the result of the fight without having them fight via Imai vs Itagaki.

Exact same styles, maybe not as polished as Ippo and Miyata, but it was made clear.

Even if it goes down to the absolute wire and there are no KOs and it ends in decision, Miyata will win.
To further promote the awesomeness of Miyata, The P4P Ranking of the Ippo Universe places Miyata in 3rd, behind Ricardo Martinez (2nd) and Mamoru Takamura (1st)

What I want to see is Miyata climb to Lightweight and become a champion while Ippo stays in Featherweight and captures the WBC and WBA (Since he made it clear he's going to go after Ricardo once he's good enough).

And THEN. Miyata vs. Ippo at Catchweight.

For those who don't know boxing that would mean a weight class that is even for both Ippo and Miyata.

If Ippo is Feather and Miyata is hopefully in Light, the Catchweight would be Jr. Lightweight.

And then, whatever happens in the manga... once that fight happens, and it ends. It'll be known as the greatest manga... of all time.