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Old 11-06-2009, 08:25 PM   #1
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Nagato became what he is because danzou helped hanzou out,Madara started the trouble in the mist village and he was part of konoha,Orochimaru ruin the lives of slaves and experiment on countless people from other nations and hes from konoha....itachi started this path of avengance for sasuke and their from konoha,kabuto is from konoha,konoha ninjas were the ones that killed nagato parents..

This whole mess was because of Konoha.
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Nagato became what he is because danzou helped hanzou out,Madara started the trouble in the mist village and he was part of konoha,Orochimaru ruin the lives of slaves and experiment on countless people from other nations and hes from konoha....itachi started this path of avengance for sasuke and their from konoha,kabuto is from konoha,konoha ninjas were the ones that killed nagato parents..

This whole mess was because of Konoha
I don't get what there is to discuss..
so.. cool.
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I don't get what there is to discuss..
so.. cool.
Lol im just pointing out konohas doing and this whole storyline is based on that..Kinda mad kishi aint make other villages have shinobis that have master plans like madara,itachi,sasuke,4th hokage etc....except pein he had a plan.
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Lol im just pointing out konohas doing and this whole storyline is based on that..Kinda mad kishi aint make other villages have shinobis that have master plans like madara,itachi,sasuke,4th hokage etc....except pein he had a plan.
Hahah yeah, I mean, you brought it to my attention. But Idk what else to say. I didn't mean anything offensive.
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Hahah yeah, I mean, you brought it to my attention. But Idk what else to say. I didn't mean anything offensive.
Lol I dont take other people posts to heart,this isnt like a discussion thead but more like a complaint.
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Don't be ignorant. Each village has hard part in the wars they participated in. The affairs of the leaf are focused on because this series main characters are from there.
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Don't be ignorant. Each village has hard part in the wars they participated in. The affairs of the leaf are focused on because this series main characters are from there.
I know that the other nations or villages had their part but they were more like a chain reaction,if Danzou didnt help hanzou out with the plan on capturing konan and outnumbering the small group of akatsuki then yahiko wouldnt have died and he wouldve steered nagato in the direction vice versa..There would never been itachi,hidan etc...Hell akatsuki couldve been a great help to other vilages in bringing peace...madara wouldve still been at the mist village doing the bloody thingy exam so he can round up good members,instead of using nagatos anger to further akatsuki plans as a deadly mercenary clan/helping him in their so called world domination.

The other villages still had a small part though.
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kishi dunt go into detale 4 othr nations cuz the stroy is abut konoha ninja mainely. do u go watch family guy 2 fine out wut theyre neighbers r doin? no... do u read bleach 2 fine out wuts goin on in america? no.... but dey all hav stories dey just not focised on, and y do u kep spamin new threds abut useless drivvel? wuld u go watch japanese local news stashun 2 find out abut india or europe? no dusnt meen dey dunt hav stuff goin on
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I know that the other nations or villages had their part but they were more like a chain reaction,if Danzou didnt help hanzou out with the plan on capturing konan and outnumbering the small group of akatsuki then yahiko wouldnt have died and he wouldve steered nagato in the direction vice versa..There would never been itachi,hidan etc...Hell akatsuki couldve been a great help to other vilages in bringing peace...madara wouldve still been at the mist village doing the bloody thingy exam so he can round up good members,instead of using nagatos anger to further akatsuki plans as a deadly mercenary clan/helping him in their so called world domination.

The other villages still had a small part though.
Omg... What part of focus do you not understand? You're trying to give all this stuff to prove your point but it is folly. You honestly sit here and tell me you have as muh or more information about the other villages to prove that the leaf cause all these affairs. You can't because you do not have that info. SO, as I said earlier stop making false assumptions. This series focuses on the affairs of the leaf not other villages. God your f*ckin "logic" if we can call it that, makes no sense. Trying to tie all this non relating stuff together....
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you know what he does have a good point,it does seem like it was konoha fault...think about it if 1st hokage never would have tried to make madara so that the senji could get more power than,madara wouldn't be mad and wouldn't fought the 1st, then and the future he would have never release the ninw-tail on konoha making the 4th sealed it in his son..also if the 3rd ninja war wasn't started then nagato's parents wouldn't be killed, meaning even if madara did fight the 1st he would have nagato and the akatsuki might never be formed... and to top that off lets say madara did fight 1st(we all know he did but just go along with this) and he won, do you think it would be a 3rd ninja war? Do you think Itachi would have killed his family? Do you think that the akatsuki would be formed? Do you even think naruto would have the nine-tailed seal...Its not just falling on konoha but on Madara & the 1st Hokage for getting so hungry for power, even though the other villages had something to do it really just falls on Madara & the 1st Hokage, and even before them the two kids of the six realm sage.
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you know what he does have a good point,it does seem like it was konoha fault...think about it if 1st hokage never would have tried to make madara so that the senji could get more power than,madara wouldn't be mad and wouldn't fought the 1st, then and the future he would have never release the ninw-tail on konoha making the 4th sealed it in his son..also if the 3rd ninja war wasn't started then nagato's parents wouldn't be killed, meaning even if madara did fight the 1st he would have nagato and the akatsuki might never be formed... and to top that off lets say madara did fight 1st(we all know he did but just go along with this) and he won, do you think it would be a 3rd ninja war? Do you think Itachi would have killed his family? Do you think that the akatsuki would be formed? Do you even think naruto would have the nine-tailed seal...Its not just falling on konoha but on Madara & the 1st Hokage for getting so hungry for power, even though the other villages had something to do it really just falls on Madara & the 1st Hokage, and even before them the two kids of the six realm sage.
1st off the fight with madara and the 1st was an inevitable fight that was destine to happen and has nothing to do with madara defecting ...Madara was power hungry not the 1st wanted prosperity NOT MADARA. This is why kishi explains the sons of the sages of 6 paths the younger son was not power hungry why the older one was and madara is a decendant from the younger. Itachi HAD to kill his family because he knew how curse his bloodline is has nothing to do with konoha, i mean someone had to do it, if not then i'm sure the uchihas would have rebelled .

Other villages had their part in this mess, example notice 3rd great ninja war as seen in kakashi gaiden was hidden rock and konoha ? Even last magna those 2 jounins was suggesting to their kage that they should kill the 8 and 9 tail beasts and it would weaken their enemies. As you see that each village have their own agenda .
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1st off the fight with madara and the 1st was an inevitable fight that was destine to happen and has nothing to do with madara defecting ...Madara was power hungry not the 1st wanted prosperity NOT MADARA. This is why kishi explains the sons of the sages of 6 paths the younger son was not power hungry why the older one was and madara is a decendant from the younger. Itachi HAD to kill his family because he knew how curse his bloodline is has nothing to do with konoha, i mean someone had to do it, if not then i'm sure the uchihas would have rebelled .

Other villages had their part in this mess, example notice 3rd great ninja war as seen in kakashi gaiden was hidden rock and konoha ? Even last magna those 2 jounins was suggesting to their kage that they should kill the 8 and 9 tail beasts and it would weaken their enemies. As you see that each village have their own agenda .
I know all about that fight with the two brothers thats why I put at the bottom that it was there fault to and also I said other villages had a patr in it two but not as big and then ask what if madara won, I think it would turned out the same right in some parts but and others I think it would be different.
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Omg... What part of focus do you not understand? You're trying to give all this stuff to prove your point but it is folly. You honestly sit here and tell me you have as muh or more information about the other villages to prove that the leaf cause all these affairs. You can't because you do not have that info. SO, as I said earlier stop making false assumptions. This series focuses on the affairs of the leaf not other villages. God your f*ckin "logic" if we can call it that, makes no sense. Trying to tie all this non relating stuff together....
Thats the logicc!!! There is no info on that stufff.Raikage keeps his village in check,tushikage kept his village in check except deidara,mizukage has an handle on her village know except kisame and suigetsu,Gaara has his village in check,konoha dont have their village in check....Sasuke is still running loose for all these years but no missing nin was trying to get him,orochimaru is still free,kabuto is still free,even though the same person,danzou got schemes,all the teenagers from the village is running free,there is no hokage,madara is at it again...

So the four main upcoming events will probably be:
Danzou-Diabolical
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Thats the logicc!!! There is no info on that stufff.Raikage keeps his village in check,tushikage kept his village in check except deidara,mizukage has an handle on her village know except kisame and suigetsu,Gaara has his village in check,konoha dont have their village in check....Sasuke is still running loose for all these years but no missing nin was trying to get him,orochimaru is still free,kabuto is still free,even though the same person,danzou got schemes,all the teenagers from the village is running free,there is no hokage,madara is at it again...

So the four main upcoming events will probably be:
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There's no point in arguing with you, simpleton.
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