who is more powerful HOSHIKAGE KISAME or UCHIHA ITACHI?

[Kengen]

Originally Posted by RiNnEgAn HoSt

Lol you should under stand itachis special genjutsu will take kisame out in one hit lol

Kisame had been with Itachi for a long time. Look what Gai and Deidara managed to do when they were exposed to Sharingan bearers for extended periods of time. Gai learned how to fight while never looking at his opponents face, which pretty much nullifies the abilities of the Sharingan. And Deidara trained his left eye to resist the effects of the Sharingan, so it wouldn't work on him either. And Kisame was with Itachi for at least two years. So he probably managed to work something out as well.

[EsPaDa#1 StArK]

Originally Posted by Kengen

Kisame had been with Itachi for a long time. Look what Gai and Deidara managed to do when they were exposed to Sharingan bearers for extended periods of time. Gai learned how to fight while never looking at his opponents face, which pretty much nullifies the abilities of the Sharingan. And Deidara trained his left eye to resist the effects of the Sharingan, so it wouldn't work on him either. And Kisame was with Itachi for at least two years. So he probably managed to work something out as well.

Dont forget itachis other eye jutsus,even though kisame uses suiton,it still wouldnt matter if itachi uses amaratsu or susanoo to trap kisame and kill him or itachis cunning and intelligent to figure out kisame...like i said genjutsu might work at 50/50 if he looks at the ground but he will never see amaratsu coming.

[Lord_Aquanite]

Itachi Uchiha and Kisame Hoshikage are just equal like 50/50.

[Kengen]

Originally Posted by EsPaDa#1 StArK

Dont forget itachis other eye jutsus,even though kisame uses suiton,it still wouldnt matter if itachi uses amaratsu or susanoo to trap kisame and kill him or itachis cunning and intelligent to figure out kisame...like i said genjutsu might work at 50/50 if he looks at the ground but he will never see amaratsu coming.

What is amaterasu made up of? I personally think that it has a certain amount of chakra in it, which causes it to be different than normal fire. If so, he could just use Samehada.

Originally Posted by Lord_Aquanite

Itachi Uchiha and Kisame Hoshikage are just equal like 50/50.

And that is based on what?

[tylertag238]

i think their evenly to but itachi is kinduv stronger then kisame cause he has mayaigio shargian but who knows

[Michi Uchiha]

Originally Posted by Kengen

Kisame had been with Itachi for a long time. Look what Gai and Deidara managed to do when they were exposed to Sharingan bearers for extended periods of time. Gai learned how to fight while never looking at his opponents face, which pretty much nullifies the abilities of the Sharingan. And Deidara trained his left eye to resist the effects of the Sharingan, so it wouldn't work on him either. And Kisame was with Itachi for at least two years. So he probably managed to work something out as well.

something wrong with ur theory. kisame had been with itachi more then 2 years. at least 7 or 8 years kisame's been around itachi and yet kisame is still weak against the sharingan. kisame very well knows about the sharingan and its limitations but i doubt he knew about sasoono. without knowing about that type of jutsu, itachi could easily own the shark thing. deidara did train his left eye but yet he couldnt manage to defeat a sharingan user. gai did well with training himself against a sharingan user.

[Kengen]

Originally Posted by Itachi Crow

something wrong with ur theory. kisame had been with itachi more then 2 years. at least 7 or 8 years kisame's been around itachi and yet kisame is still weak against the sharingan. kisame very well knows about the sharingan and its limitations but i doubt he knew about sasoono. without knowing about that type of jutsu, itachi could easily own the shark thing. deidara did train his left eye but yet he couldnt manage to defeat a sharingan user. gai did well with training himself against a sharingan user.

I believe I said they were together AT LEAST 2 years. I never siad that it was only for two years. And we don't know if Kisame is weak against the Sharingan, we haven't seen it used on him. And Kisame may have something that could counter even something as powerful as sasoono. Madara may have had Pein put Kisame with Itachi so he could keep an eye on him because he knew that Kisame would be powerful enough to take out Itachi if Itachi did something that was bad for the Akatsuki in general.

[EsPaDa#1 StArK]

I think Kisame is severly underestimated here. I think that we are shown that his power is greater than Itachis. What would give advantage to Itachi are his Mangekyu abilities. But i dont think it would have been too difficult for Kisame to avoid/block them.

Tsukuyomi: Kisame has been a partner of Itachi and seems to know how the jutsu works and even how deadly is for Itachi, his eyes and his health. In a battle it would have been only logical for him to avoid eye contact and if something like this happened Samehada could disrupt his chakra and so put him out of the Genjutsu.

Amaterasu: This is the only difficult jutsu that Kisame might have problems with but being a suiton monster he wouldnt have any problem to block it either. Especially after we saw that sand(gaara without Shukaku) is perfectly able to block it.

Susanoo: A nice dinner for Samehada.

Concluding i think that MS abilities which are the only trump card for Itachi are no use for him in that battle. So in the end ninjutsu are what would judge the game. Too bad for Itachi that Kisame is power, stamina freak that can spam catastrophic and big scaled jutsu, jutsus that Itachi hasnt shown the ability to defend against.

[madara360]

I would pick itachi but he is dead so kisame it is.

[Michi Uchiha]

Originally Posted by Kengen

I believe I said they were together AT LEAST 2 years. I never siad that it was only for two years. And we don't know if Kisame is weak against the Sharingan, we haven't seen it used on him. And Kisame may have something that could counter even something as powerful as sasoono. Madara may have had Pein put Kisame with Itachi so he could keep an eye on him because he knew that Kisame would be powerful enough to take out Itachi if Itachi did something that was bad for the Akatsuki in general.

i still disagree because itachi is more stronger then kisame. kisame could be able to weaken itachi, but not own him. itachi's sasoono is strong, kisame may be able to fend it off for a couple of minutes but not any longer.

[Kengen]

Originally Posted by Itachi Crow

i still disagree because itachi is more stronger then kisame. kisame could be able to weaken itachi, but not own him. itachi's sasoono is strong, kisame may be able to fend it off for a couple of minutes but not any longer.

He wouldn't need to fend it off, just avoid it for a sufficient amount of time. Susano'o has to be very draining on the user, so I don't think that Itachi could keep it up for extended periods of time.

[kisame101]

Originally Posted by EsPaDa#1 StArK

Lol you should under stand itachis special genjutsu will take kisame out in one hit lol

Not if kisame can fuse with samehada,he would be just like kirabi "genjutsu proff". As for kisame beging stronger then itachi no 1 can tell forsure yet. But as of right now I think it's safe to say itachi was da strongest.

[EsPaDa#1 StArK]

Originally Posted by kisame101

Not if kisame can fuse with samehada,he would be just like kirabi "genjutsu proff". As for kisame beging stronger then itachi no 1 can tell forsure yet. But as of right now I think it's safe to say itachi was da strongest.

How do you know he can fuse with his sword????lol this aint bleach...hes an ninja not an arrancar

[Kengen]

Originally Posted by kisame101

Not if kisame can fuse with samehada,he would be just like kirabi "genjutsu proff". As for kisame beging stronger then itachi no 1 can tell forsure yet. But as of right now I think it's safe to say itachi was da strongest.

I think we will be able to tell after we see the rest of Kisame's battle with Killer Bee. As long as there is no interference from Madara, the battle should go smoothly, well, as smoothly as battles go at least

Originally Posted by EsPaDa#1 StArK

How do you know he can fuse with his sword????lol this aint bleach...hes an ninja not an arrancar

I agree, this definitely is not Bleach lol. But even if Kisame COULD fuse, why would he want to? Samehada eats chakra, and I for one wouldn't want to risk the sword going berserk and taking my chakra. And from what I saw in the last chapter, it looks as though Samehada (sort of like Bleach, as far as this part goes) has a mind of its own. Whether or not it is a mind completely under Kisame's control remains to be seen. It could be more like a partnership. I am starting to confuse myself, does anyone else see where I am going with this?

[Michi Uchiha]

Originally Posted by Kengen

He wouldn't need to fend it off, just avoid it for a sufficient amount of time. Sasoono has to be very draining on the user, so I don't think that Itachi could keep it up for extended periods of time.

ur right there, but also itachi could perform moves where kisame wouldnt be able to dodge