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Old 11-07-2009, 01:15 AM   #46
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You are still missing what I mean by attack. I mean an all out attack, a full fight. We haven't seen him do that yet.

When they are sealing (or trying to anyways lol), Madara could just be sending out chakra for the other two to use. I think a good example of what I mean here is when Naruto did the rasengan for the first time. He (the original) concentrated the chakra so it was flowing to one spot, then a clone shaped that chakra into what was needed. It could be something like that. But for know we can't be certain.

It could be the same technique. Who knows? Maybe he just likes screwing with people's minds lol. He might not have even teleported himself, Zetsu could have done it. We don't really know what he can do either.

It all boils down to we don't know yet
zetsu dint teleprot him becuz wen they go 2 git itachi nd sasuke he says 2 zetsu "ur slow" wich meens he beet him ther nd then zetsu says "srry i cant mov at teh speed of lite" so its not zetsu teleprotin him...

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How dare you disrespect my "we don't know card"! You have to admit, it is a powerful card lol

He may have physical limits that we haven't seen. Why hit only Naruto? Why only once? I think he has a limit on how much physical activity he is capable of.

Madara could just be bringing out his chakra and letting one of the others direct it. And just because he has chakra control does not mean that he has the power to use jutsu. He may be unable to bring jutsu to bear. And he could just be using that hand sign as a way of focusing while he builds up and releases his chakra. Many other shinobi have used hand signs to focus while controlling their chakra. And that takes me back to my argument about his chakra control.

I didn't mean to use the "we don't know card" here. I was just saying that we haven't seen all of what Zetsu can do. And seeing as he is still alive, it is not that hard to assume that he is one of the stronger Akatsuki members. So we can assume that he is able to use powerful jutsu, maybe even a jutsu that can teleport people.
he dint keep atakin naruto cuz he had no ned 2 kil him he wus just delayin dem so dey culdnt get 2 itachi nd sasuke fitin. as 4 the zetsu prat luk at my frist respons
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Old 11-07-2009, 01:18 AM   #47
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Old 11-07-2009, 01:41 AM   #48
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Old 11-07-2009, 01:46 AM   #49
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:51 AM   #50
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Zetsu didn't teleport him because when they go to get Itachi and Sasuke he says to Zetsu "You're slow" which means he beat him there and then Zetsu says "Sorry I can't move at the speed of light" so its not Zetsu teleporting him...

He didn't keep attacking Naruto because he had no need to kill him, he was just delaying them so they couldn't get to Itachi and Sasuke fighting. As for the Zetsu part, look at my first response
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And it could be Zetsu teleporting him because Madara left first. So Zetsu could have teleported Madara and THEN teleported himself, which would account for the gap in arrival time.

And if he was only trying to delay them, why hit Naruto at all? He could have just used his space/time manipulation technique to force him back with out having to use violence.
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:21 AM   #51
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How dare you disrespect my "we don't know card"! You have to admit, it is a powerful card lol

He may have physical limits that we haven't seen. Why hit only Naruto? Why only once? I think he has a limit on how much physical activity he is capable of.

Madara could just be bringing out his chakra and letting one of the others direct it. And just because he has chakra control does not mean that he has the power to use jutsu. He may be unable to bring jutsu to bear. And he could just be using that hand sign as a way of focusing while he builds up and releases his chakra. Many other shinobi have used hand signs to focus while controlling their chakra. And that takes me back to my argument about his chakra control.

I didn't mean to use the "we don't know card" here. I was just saying that we haven't seen all of what Zetsu can do. And seeing as he is still alive, it is not that hard to assume that he is one of the stronger Akatsuki members. So we can assume that he is able to use powerful jutsu, maybe even a jutsu that can teleport people.
It is powerful! That's why it's working my nerves Lol

Yes! I finally got you to say what you think lol Well I think he doesn't have a limit. We'll which if us is right or wrong hopefully in the upcoming chapters.

It takes chakra control to direct the bijuu's chakra inside the statue, not chakra itself. That's what he's doing. I don't think it takes chakra to control chakra, therefore what would they do with Madara's chakra? I don't think it would help them. If you have proof that it takes chakra, please link.

I wouldn't argue against that except for the fact that Zetsu hasn't been with Madara everytime he's used a space/time jutsu.
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It is powerful! That's why it's working my nerves Lol

Yes! I finally got you to say what you think lol Well I think he doesn't have a limit. We'll which if us is right or wrong hopefully in the upcoming chapters.

It takes chakra control to direct the bijuu's chakra inside the statue, not chakra itself. That's what he's doing. I don't think it takes chakra to control chakra, therefore what would they do with Madara's chakra? I don't think it would help them. If you have proof that it takes chakra, please link.

I wouldn't argue against that except for the fact that Zetsu hasn't been with Madara everytime he's used a space/time jutsu.
HHMM, intresting point, so all the time Madara is "mischiefing" around, hes controlling chakra, inside a statue miles away, while hes beefing up for a war?
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It is powerful! That's why it's working my nerves Lol

Yes! I finally got you to say what you think lol Well I think he doesn't have a limit. We'll which if us is right or wrong hopefully in the upcoming chapters.

It takes chakra control to direct the bijuu's chakra inside the statue, not chakra itself. That's what he's doing. I don't think it takes chakra to control chakra, therefore what would they do with Madara's chakra? I don't think it would help them. If you have proof that it takes chakra, please link.

I wouldn't argue against that except for the fact that Zetsu hasn't been with Madara everytime he's used a space/time jutsu.
God I hope so lol.

But I believe that it takes chakra as well as chakra control to affect SOMEONE ELSE'S chakra. When Neji stops the flow of his opponents chakra, he needs to use his own chakra to do so. And if anyone could control the flow of another's chakra, chakra would be stolen much more easily.

And Zetsu was with him during that one teleport that was different from the others. That time there was no swirling of Madara's body that focused around his eye. He just got smaller.

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HHMM, intresting point, so all the time Madara is "mischiefing" around, hes controlling chakra, inside a statue miles away, while hes beefing up for a war?
I don't think that was what Dipset meant. I believe he said that when they are extracting a bijuu, they are controlling the chakra of the bijuu and moving it into the statue, and only during those times. When they are not extracting a bijuu, there is no need to control the chakra. Am I right Dipset?
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HHMM, intresting point, so all the time Madara is "mischiefing" around, hes controlling chakra, inside a statue miles away, while hes beefing up for a war?
Yea of course hes multi tasking lol!When he extracts the bijuus,he can used them for his plan or use them for war if the plan back fires.
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Yea of course hes multi tasking lol!When he extracts the bijuus,he can used them for his plan or use them for war if the plan back fires.
But wouldn't the Bijuu go haywire and do whatever they want?
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HHMM, intresting point, so all the time Madara is "mischiefing" around, hes controlling chakra, inside a statue miles away, while hes beefing up for a war?
...I really don't understand what you're saying right here lol

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God I hope so lol.

But I believe that it takes chakra as well as chakra control to affect SOMEONE ELSE'S chakra. When Neji stops the flow of his opponents chakra, he needs to use his own chakra to do so. And if anyone could control the flow of another's chakra, chakra would be stolen much more easily.

And Zetsu was with him during that one teleport that was different from the others. That time there was no swirling of Madara's body that focused around his eye. He just got smaller.

I don't think that was what Dipset meant. I believe he said that when they are extracting a bijuu, they are controlling the chakra of the bijuu and moving it into the statue, and only during those times. When they are not extracting a bijuu, there is no need to control the chakra. Am I right Dipset?
Lol If you think about it, you're actually agreeing with me. When I say Madara's using the tech 1. He's using his own chakra, which is basically spending chakra 2. He's controlling his chakra, which doesn't spend any chakra 3. The technique in and of itself is moving and sealing the chakra of the bijuu from the jinchuuriki to the statue, which takes chakra that I've already pointed out he's spending in point 1.

If zetsu is teleporting Madara, why doesn't he teleport himself like that, seeing as his own way takes longer? Doesn't make sense.

And Yes, you are correct.
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Not unless madara can controll the other bijuus like he did the nine tails
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Not unless madara can controll the other bijuus like he did the nine tails
i don't think that he has those powers. i know he can control the fox, but the first was the only one that could control all of the bijuus
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Lol If you think about it, you're actually agreeing with me. When I say Madara's using the tech 1. He's using his own chakra, which is basically spending chakra 2. He's controlling his chakra, which doesn't spend any chakra 3. The technique in and of itself is moving and sealing the chakra of the bijuu from the jinchuuriki to the statue, which takes chakra that I've already pointed out he's spending in point 1.

If zetsu is teleporting Madara, why doesn't he teleport himself like that, seeing as his own way takes longer? Doesn't make sense.

And Yes, you are correct.
Fine, I agree with you. But even if he is able to use jutsu, he may be unable to use some or even most jutsu.

And as for Zetsu, when have a lot of things in Naruto made sense? lol, Zetsu's technique (if it is him doing the teleporting) may only allow him to teleport others and not himself. I know that sounds unlikely, but at least give me the credit that I MIGHT be right

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Not unless madara can controll the other bijuus like he did the nine tails
It is possible, we do not know the full extent of his EMS's power.

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i don't think that he has those powers. i know he can control the fox, but the first was the only one that could control all of the bijuus
It is possible, even though he was only ever seen with the fox (or at least that WE could see), it may be that the Kyuubi was his favorite for some reason and so he only took that one into battle. Or, if he does not have that power, it is possible that he was able to copy the First Hokage's technique to controlling the other bijuu. Although his technique might be a Kekkei Genkai and the Sharingan is normally unable to copy such abilities, the EMS is hardly going to be normal. Who knows what it is capable of? It could very well be able to copy another person's Kekkei Genkai.
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Fine, I agree with you. But even if he is able to use jutsu, he may be unable to use some or even most jutsu.

And as for Zetsu, when have a lot of things in Naruto made sense? lol, Zetsu's technique (if it is him doing the teleporting) may only allow him to teleport others and not himself. I know that sounds unlikely, but at least give me the credit that I MIGHT be right
Good enough.

Again. COME ON. lol We're trying to find things that are at least likely.

About your credit, how about I say it's just extremely unlikely? lol
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