Who's The Strongest Hokage!?

[jubijinchuriki]

i would like to know more about first's powers i ust want to know that how he defeated madara's teleportation technique did he had something like that too??????

[hayate]

Originally Posted by jubijinchuriki

i would like to know more about first's powers i ust want to know that how he defeated madara's teleportation technique did he had something like that too??????

first's powers
1.by mokuton he can surpress kyuubi chakra.
2.he was able to bend bijuus on his will.
3.he was a true senju with rikudo's body and stamina.
abd about his jutsus and element you will have to ask some other person.

[Kengen]

Originally Posted by jubijinchuriki

i would like to know more about first's powers i ust want to know that how he defeated madara's teleportation technique did he had something like that too??????

We don't know if he had his technique at that time.

[Shaggy]

Originally Posted by StarkLilynette

Alright here is how I see it........

1st Hokage (Shodaime): Hashirama Senju He was the first Hokage of Konohagakure, who ruled at the same time as his younger the Nidaime Hokage, Tobirama Senju. He was the first Hokage and so far the only Hokage Konoha had who possessed a Kekkei Genkai that was born into his blood. So his fighting capabilities must be exceptional because as previously stated when we saw him fight he was being controlled by a lesser shinobi and someone who couldn't possibly know his full capabilities.

2nd Hokage (Nidaime): Tobirama Senju He was the second Hokage of Konohagakure, who ruled at the same time as his older brother Shodaime Hokage, Hashirama Senju. His abilities came from being able to create his own water and use high powered water jutsu's with out there being an type of water source whatsoever. But along with him, we were not able to witness his full capabilities of combat because he too was being controlled by a lesser shinobi who couldn't possibly know his full abilities in combat.

3rd Hokage (Sandaime): Hiruzen Sarutobi He was the third Hokage of Konohagakure, who was trained by the first and second. He knew many many jutsu's and even had the Monkey staff and at old age fought like a demon. He could have been considered the strongest Hokage because he lasted the longest as Hokage. He could also combine elements but not in the same way as a Kekkei Genkai.

4th Hokage (Yondaime): Minato Namikaze He was the fourth Hokage of Konohagakure, who was trained by the third Hokage's student Jiraiya. He was the first to create the Rasengan, along was titled the Yellow Flash because of his self made jutsu that required special kunai to allow him to teleport in combat which made him the deadliest Shinobi Konoha ever had, as well as saved Konoha from the 9 Tails Kyuubi, and sealed it inside his son at the cost of his own life but as well put a special seal in his son to were if he gets to 8 tails he will appear and stop Naruto from removing the Seal.

5th Hokage (Godaime): Tsunade She is the fifth Hokage of Konohagakure, who is the granddaughter and grandniece of the first and second and one of the 3 legendary Sannin. She is an expert Medical Nin, and when it comes to brute strength she is unmatched in today's shinobi/kunochi.

Acting 6th Hokage (Rokudaime): Danzo He is the acting sixth Hokage of Konohagakure, who has no ties to the past Kage's and is against their methods, he was one of the acting members who ordered the Uchiha Massacre, but has the right eye and arm of Shisui Uchiha. He is the founder of Anbu.

So I have to say in my opinion the strongest Hokage is infact 2 of them the 1st and the 2nd seeing as they served at the same time and fought side by side making them a deadly combination.

I agree. Its between the First and Second Hokage. The Senju brothers were not only the strongest within the clan but were pretty much the strongest shinobis, along with Madara, in the Shinobi World. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't understand the magnitude of their strength with the little info we have on these 2. But between those 2 I'd say Hashirama Senju was stronger. Although there's cases where the younger sibling surpasses the oldest so...maybe not...eh...idk but its between those 2.

Originally Posted by tylertag238

well i think the fourth hokage cause he acutally scarficed his life for naruto\his son then it would be tsunade

Sacrificing himself doesn't mean that he's stronger, it means that he saw that his strength wasn't enough to stop the Kyuubi or a weakened Madara from destroying the village, so he went and sealed Madara's pet in Naruto so that he would suffer. Like how the 3rd sealed Orochimaru's arms.

Originally Posted by Michi Uchiha

minato namikaze by far. he is the best hokage ive seen

How do you know? We don't know much about Hashirama and Tobirama Senju and like someone here said they're practically gods! Minato was nothing compared to them. But he was the most gifted shinobi according to Jiraiya so maybe he had the potential to surpass them. But then he died so he didn't and therefore not the strongest.

[hayate]

Originally Posted by Kengen

We don't know if he had his technique at that time.

yah that is a good point.but how first matched his EMS?

[Kengen]

Originally Posted by hayate

yah that is a good point.but how first matched his EMS?

We do not know what power the EMS has. Its extra abilities might not be for battle, but healing or something else.

[lulz_turtle]

Originally Posted by Shaggy

I agree. Its between the First and Second Hokage. The Senju brothers were not only the strongest within the clan but were pretty much the strongest shinobis, along with Madara, in the Shinobi World. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't understand the magnitude of their strength with the little info we have on these 2. But between those 2 I'd say Hashirama Senju was stronger. Although there's cases where the younger sibling surpasses the oldest so...maybe not...eh...idk but its between those 2.

This is where the problem starts, where you use no logic to support your case. The only thing we know about them is that one could make wood, and the other could make water. I could understand if you said that Hashirama was great because he defeated Madara(although we don't know how strong either of them were in their peak) there is no info to suggest that the second was really as great as you claim.

Sacrificing himself doesn't mean that he's stronger, it means that he saw that his strength wasn't enough to stop the Kyuubi or a weakened Madara from destroying the village, so he went and sealed Madara's pet in Naruto so that he would suffer. Like how the 3rd sealed Orochimaru's arms.

It doesn't make him stronger, but it doesn't neccesarily make him weaker either. Like Jiraiya said, there were clearly some things that Minato knew that no one else(including the reader) did. He said that he always did things for a reason that made sense and he wasn't one to do things that didn't. Why would this instance be any different, I'm sure he had a reason for sealing the Kyuubi inside of Naruto.

How do you know? We don't know much about Hashirama and Tobirama Senju and like someone here said they're practically gods! Minato was nothing compared to them. But he was the most gifted shinobi according to Jiraiya so maybe he had the potential to surpass them. But then he died so he didn't and therefore not the strongest.

How do you know? You call them practically gods only knowing that the first beat Madara (still don't know how strong either was, or how that fight played out, who knows what kind of hax could have been used) and that the second could make water. Nothing to indicate that they were close to the Rikudou sennin, the one person in the story who actually appeared to have power close to that of a "god." And then you say Minato was nothing compared to them, again, you have no way to back up this claim at all only knowing of a few jutsu that he ever used.

[hayate]

Originally Posted by Kengen

We do not know what power the EMS has. Its extra abilities might not be for battle, but healing or something else.

"when his brothers eye were transplanted to him[madara],the eyes found an inextinguishable light."
so EMS is only a MS which will not get damaged.
So this means you can use the MS power of your own eyes for a never ending time.like you can use amaterasu for a very long time without getting hurt.

[dbrockz_95]

I'm awefully confused about this. Once we heard that minato was the strongest(during the beginning). Then we heard that The first was strongest as he was able to control all the tailed beasts and he also has the kekkei genkai of the sixth sage. Then we also heard that the third had knowledge on more thatn thousands of jutsus. Well compared to them i haven't heard much about the second and tsunade's is a sannin but comparatively less strong. So i think i'd have to go with the fourth though i'm still confused.hmmmmm.....

[Kengen]

Originally Posted by hayate

"when his brothers eye were transplanted to him[madara],the eyes found an inextinguishable light."
so EMS is only a MS which will not get damaged.
So this means you can use the MS power of your own eyes for a never ending time.like you can use amaterasu for a very long time without getting hurt.

I do not think that was what he was talking about. Remember, bearers of the Mangekyo Sharingan eventually go blind. Madara did not want to lose his sight and power, so he took his brother's eyes which allowed him to keep his sight. That is what the "inextinguishable light" is, the simple ability to see and not go blind. As far as we know, that could be the only difference between the Mangekyo and the Eternal Mangekyo.

[Shaggy]

Originally Posted by lulz_turtle

How do you know? You call them practically gods only knowing that the first beat Madara (still don't know how strong either was, or how that fight played out, who knows what kind of hax could have been used) and that the second could make water. Nothing to indicate that they were close to the Rikudou sennin, the one person in the story who actually appeared to have power close to that of a "god." And then you say Minato was nothing compared to them, again, you have no way to back up this claim at all only knowing of a few jutsu that he ever used.

I thought I was being logical. Hashirama Senju was a master of taijutsu. Sarutobi said so himself, and he was Shodaime's student so he knows better than anyone (Well besides Tobirama). He knows Wood Manipulation, Earth Manipulation and Water Manipulation. He has that pitch black jutsu thing, don't remember the name. He can bend a Bijuu's will whenever he feels like it and he beat Madara to a point where he's no longer able to engage in combat. And he's highly respected by Madara. So tell me, don't you think this guy is the strongest? And what difference does it make if we don't know how strong they were when they were at the pinnacle of their power, if Madara is a shell of his former self and he already seems to be a badass shinobi, it does pretty much gives us an idea on how strong they were. Oh and if that's not enough. The Valley of the End wasn't always a big ass crater thing. Tobirama exceled in Water Manipulation that he didn't need a source of water nearby to use his water techniques, that says alot about a shinobi seeing as the only one we've seen that can do that is Kisame and they call him the tailed beast without a tail. Not much else was said about Nidaime but with just this little info, both him and Hashirama easily eclipse the others.

I never said he was weak. I just said that he wasn't strong enough to deafeat both Kyuubi and Madara so he sacrificed himself to seal Kyuubi inside Naruto. Its obvious why he did it. He sealed the Nine Tailed Fox in Naruto because he wanted Naruto to be able to harness its power and use it to protect the village for starters. Second, to keep Kyuubi in a safe place where Madara couldn't get his hands on it. We know now that he can get his hands on it but Minato did try to foil his plans.

Well technically they're not gods but with the few things that we know, they come pretty close to one. Yes I said that Minato was nothing compared to them but I acknowledge the fact that he was gifted, he probably would've surpassed the Senju brothers because he was still young and had nothing but time to become the strongest but seeing as he did die he didn't but he had the potential to become the strongest.

[jubijinchuriki]

Originally Posted by Kengen

I do not think that was what he was talking about. Remember, bearers of the Mangekyo Sharingan eventually go blind. Madara did not want to lose his sight and power, so he took his brother's eyes which allowed him to keep his sight. That is what the "inextinguishable light" is, the simple ability to see and not go blind. As far as we know, that could be the only difference between the Mangekyo and the Eternal Mangekyo.

what were their powers and what not,to know this we must have to see their fight.only that will clear everything.

[Kengen]

Originally Posted by jubijinchuriki

what were their powers and what not,to know this we must have to see their fight.only that will clear everything.

What fight? Between who?

[Skystar]

I'll have to go with the first. He wiped the floor with the greatest Uchiha. That's something

[Matimac]

Originally Posted by Kengen

We do not know what power the EMS has. Its extra abilities might not be for battle, but healing or something else.

Sasuke is capable of putting out the Ameratsu's flames, which is a non destructive ability.
Sorry if someone pointed that out already.