something strange about ultimate gohan

[kingheartblaze]

okay i don't know if this was already made and i don't fill like looking for a thread like this but when gohan transforms into ultimate gohan.how come he never went ss1 or ss2???????was it that he couldn't?did he have to choose ???? if he didn't why didn't he transform?// he would have been SO strong??????? what are ye coments???

[NaruHina_fan_girl]

Ultimate Gohan is like a ssj form there is no "ssj ultimate Gohan" It's just Ultimate form which is stronger than ssj....It's like ultimate ssj....yah :nod:

[Hojo]

He couldn't.
His Ultimate form is another SSJ form simply. Gohans version of SSJ3.
So if he was to power up he'd go SSJ then SSJ 2 and finally ultimate.

[kingheartblaze]

He couldn't.
His Ultimate form is another SSJ form simply. Gohans version of SSJ3.
So if he was to power up he'd go SSJ then SSJ 2 and finally ultimate.

i see,i thought it was a form seperate from the ss forms...

[narutoguy03]

i see,i thought it was a form seperate from the ss forms...

It is separate, in a way. It's not technically a Super Saiyan form, but the power is that of SSJ3, probably stronger. I read that in the manga, it was suggested that Gohan's Ultimate Form was stronger than Goku's and Gotenks' SSJ3 forms.

[kingheartblaze]

It is separate, in a way. It's not technically a Super Saiyan form, but the power is that of SSJ3, probably stronger. I read that in the manga, it was suggested that Gohan's Ultimate Form was stronger than Goku's and Gotenks' SSJ3 forms.

okay can you show it to me?????????

[sakura17]

he was training to become stronger, and when he did, he probably felt he could take on buu the way he was...maybe?

[Mecha Commando]

I've always heard he was stronger in his Ultimate form than in his SSJ forms which is why he never used those anymore. I've never read anything officially stating this but it makes the most sense and a lot of people seem to agree with that. So that's the theory for now. :)

[Best101]

Actually the reason why he couldn't go SSJ is simple: he couldn't.
To make a long story short, SSJ helps to unlock hidden potential. Since Old Kai had already awakened 100% of his full potential, Gohan gained incredible strength but lost his ability to go SSJ (since he don't have any hidden strength anymore).

[TaintedLight]

"Ultimate" implies a maximum. You can't go any higher.

[karelnl]

okay can you show it to me?????????

gotenks ssj3 couldn't defeat majin buu ultimate gohan could

[Archon]

---Gohan's ultimate form when the full extent of his dormant power is
released during the Buu saga. This power up was achieved by a special
"ki unlocking" ceremony performed by Rou Dai Kaioshin. Although this
ability is not exclusive to Gohan alone due to the ceremony being one
to unlock anyone's power, Gohan in particular comes to possess colossal
power when when the ceremony is complete. When the power is first
acquired, he is told to go Super Saiyan, however when Gohan attempts to
transform into a Super Saiyan, his hair, aura, and eyes stay the same
color. He seems to be generally in his natural form, but his power and
speed are massively increased. His appearance changes slightly as his
features become more sharply defined and his hair is forced upward,
just like a Super Saiyan. With his dormant power finally released, he
was able to deal heavy damage to Super Buu with just hand to hand
combat, and seemed capable of defeating him. Buu, however, managed to
overpower Gohan after absorbing Gotenks and Piccolo. ---

[kingheartblaze]

"Ultimate" implies a maximum. You can't go any higher.

so if that is true than goku could keep reaching different ss forms couldn't he since he hasn't reached "ultimate form"???????

[karelnl]

that most be possible than.

[Jiraiya]

correct me if I am wrong but wasn't Gohan told 2 go super Saiyan after this ceremony was completed?

[Naruto-San]

he doesn't have to he is the equivalent of a super saiyan 3 and before when he just started dating his wife he vowed never to go supersaiyan 2 again for some reason

[ronankage]

I think he was strong but it wasn't the best.

[Shinigami King]

he would have gotten much stronger had he trained during the 7 yrs timeskip before the buu saga and if he hadn't become a nerd after the fight with buu

[kingheartblaze]

he doesn't have to he is the equivalent of a super saiyan 3 and before when he just started dating his wife he vowed never to go supersaiyan 2 again for some reason

why would he vow never to go ss2??????

[Shinigami King]

why would he vow never to go ss2??????

chi chi probably forced to him to make that vow

[Best101]

chi chi probably forced to him to make that vow

Gohan when SSJ2 in the World Martial Arts Tournament, and once again while fighting Fat Buu. That vow you're making up never happened.

[TaintedLight]

so if that is true than goku could keep reaching different ss forms couldn't he since he hasn't reached "ultimate form"???????

Not necessarily. It just means that that was Gohan's highest form. Goku was clearly capable of more power than that, so he progressed to Super Saiyan 4 instead.

[frost!]

Gohan never went ss1 or ss2:banghead::banghead: because there was no need for it because his ultimate power was greater than his ss2

[Sharp]

the funny thing is in dbgt near the end when gokus like almost dead and gohan,trunks,goten,vegeta go to fight him gohan is super saiyan lol.. but he had mystic from then coz it was after buu saga.. i guess it doesnt count snce its a filler.

[kingheartblaze]

Gohan never went ss1 or ss2:banghead::banghead: because there was no need for it because his ultimate power was greater than his ss2

but he could hit a go ss2 and and ultimate form right??????(at the same time if he wanted to)

[d assassain]

It is separate, in a way. It's not technically a Super Saiyan form, but the power is that of SSJ3, probably stronger. I read that in the manga, it was suggested that Gohan's Ultimate Form was stronger than Goku's and Gotenks' SSJ3 forms.

gohan's ultimate transformation is not as strong as going ssj3. it is more powerful then ssj2 but not as powerful as ssj3. it like when vegeta and trunks came back from the hyper bolic time chamber, they had surpassed ssj but were not in ssj2 form yet.

[kingheartblaze]

gohan's ultimate transformation is not as strong as going ssj3. it is more powerful then ssj2 but not as powerful as ssj3. it like when vegeta and trunks came back from the hyper bolic time chamber, they had surpassed ssj but were not in ssj2 form yet.

so it likes a form before a form!!!!!!!!!like super trunks?

[sakuradbzgirl]

Gohan's ultimate form is stronger than SSJ1 and SSJ2, so he just skips to his ultimate form.

[Delaz]

OK let me pwn this thread:
Mystic Gohan is just REGULAR GOHAN.
People used the name Mystic to call him after the power up from the Kai.
Thing is the power up's purpose was to raise Gohan's base power level, why did you think the Kai told him "all you have to do is turn Super Saiyan" to beat Majin Buu?
So Gohan going Super Saiyan is stronger than his normal or as you can call it Mystic form.
Mystic=Normal Gohan<SSJ
Its basically the same thing when he got his powe unlocked on Namek.

[kid_buu]

Ultimate Gohan is like a ssj form there is no "ssj ultimate Gohan" It's just Ultimate form which is stronger than ssj....It's like ultimate ssj....yah :nod:

Your right
He couldn't.
His Ultimate form is another SSJ form simply. Gohans version of SSJ3.
So if he was to power up he'd go SSJ then SSJ 2 and finally ultimate.

Tou are right to

he was training to become stronger, and when he did, he probably felt he could take on buu the way he was...maybe?
He didn't train, old kai did all the magic Gohan was just sitting. And after gohans potential was release kai said that he had to go ssj. Gohan achieved his full power in his normal form he doesn't have to use a ssj form

Actually the reason why he couldn't go SSJ is simple: he couldn't.
To make a long story short, SSJ helps to unlock hidden potential. Since Old Kai had already awakened 100% of his full potential, Gohan gained incredible strength but lost his ability to go SSJ (since he don't have any hidden strength anymore).
100% true

"Ultimate" implies a maximum. You can't go any higher.

Yep his full potential

[toshiro506]

IT HAS TO BE ATHER I MEAN HE WAS CHOOSEN BY THE SUPEREM KAI AND WENT OVER TRAINING OF SOME SORT OF THING SO YEAH ULTIMATE FORM IS WAY STRONGER THEN SSj FOR GOHAN

[Shinigami King]

gohans potentail was completly drawn out so going ssj would be obsolete

[Rurouni Shinobi]

the power he has as ultimate gohan is equivalent to that of a super saiyan so there is really no need to.

[kingheartblaze]

but the question is could he?

[Delaz]

I explained the whole God damned thing for you guys and you didn't even read it and continue babbling this nonsense.
You guys are beyond my help.
*leaves thread*

[Abdu]

He just didn't man.

[HELL MAN]

He just didn't, i just know it.

[Darkvizard]

so baciley it stronger than ssj3

[matthew]

he just didn't he knew that he was strong enough!

[The Bat-man]

Gohan's full potential was unleashed while he was in normal form. This bypasses the normal law of Super tranformations and there is no need to go super since he is at full power in his normal form now. Why he goes super in Gt proves he has gotten weaker after not training and studying for at least 10 to fifteen years.

[dbrockz_95]

Gohan's ultimate form was stronger so he just didn't go ssj1 or ssj2 i guess not that he couldn't.

[kingheartblaze]

this thread is spam now,its been said already why he didnt(hit ss3)and u guys just kept going with your thoughts............this thread needs to be closed