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Jonin
12-11-2008, 09:48 PM
uh-uh! Don't gimme that bull! The Sharingan IS bloodline. One that ALL Uchihas have in their blood, but must go through lotsa training to achieve it. Super Saiyan, however, is not just a bloodline that is in all Saiyans. Not any Saiyan can achieve the form of Super Saiyan.

How can you say SSJ isn't a bloodline. If a half saiyan could do it, why couldn't any full blood do it. I fail to see your reasoning.

sE pRoDiGy
12-11-2008, 09:51 PM
lol welll like i was saying (which was ignored btw lol)

at first goku was supose 2 be the "legendary super saiyan" thats born every 1000 years but since he(he=creater) continued the series after the frieza stage (where he was gunna end the seires) he made other ppl turn super saiyan i.e vegeta then the brolly movie came out signifiying then the real "legandary super saiyan" was actually brolly


How can you say SSJ isn't a bloodline. If a half saiyan could do it, why couldn't any full blood do it. I fail to see your reasoning

yea like KN said pretty much any saiyan can turn super (lol) as long as they meet the standards

Naruto
12-11-2008, 09:53 PM
Well, i explained why. Should i quote and re-post it here?

Jonin
12-11-2008, 09:54 PM
lol welll like i was saying (which was ignored btw lol)

at first goku was supose 2 be the "legendary super saiyan" thats born every 1000 years but since he(he=creater) continued the series after the frieza stage (where he was gunna end the seires) he made other ppl turn super saiyan i.e vegeta then the brolly movie came out signifiying then the real "legandary super saiyan" was actually brolly




yea like KN said pretty much any saiyan can turn super (lol) as long as they meet the standards

For this guy being such a "Big Fan" he sure isn't making any sense.

Well, i explained why. Should i quote and re-post it here?

Yes. Please do.

sE pRoDiGy
12-11-2008, 09:56 PM
[QUOTE=TheLastJonin;322913]For this guy being such a "Big Fan" he sure isn't making any sense.QUOTE]

:confused: me? lol wrong guy dude??? i posted that up top cuz of wat sum1 else said in the naruto thread lol;)

Naruto
12-11-2008, 09:56 PM
That's the legendary super saiyan. According to your logic, the sharingan is not a bloodline either. Since all the Uchihas have the same blood, but none of them is born with 3 tomoe.

I'm an avid DragonballZ fan. That's a warning.

That is not bull. Any Saiyan can reach super saiyan as long as the demands are met, i.e. rage, extreme emotions. Even Bardock would have been able to.
But it just didn't happen.
Here we go. Lol, i know ALOT about DB. I've been watching it for 3 years, and i have every manga book lieing next to me.

Jonin
12-11-2008, 09:57 PM
[QUOTE=TheLastJonin;322913]For this guy being such a "Big Fan" he sure isn't making any sense.QUOTE]

:confused: me? lol wrong guy dude??? i posted that up top cuz of wat sum1 else said in the naruto thread lol;)

No. I know. Its what he posted right after I made the link for here. He was saying he was a huge fan and trying to call out Kawaii.

NaruHina_fan_girl
12-11-2008, 10:00 PM
Here we go. Lol, i know ALOT about DB. I've been watching it for 3 years, and i have every manga book lieing next to me.

Show me the pic....I've been wtching the series since i was like 6 or 5.....I know stuff...NOW SHOW ME THE PIC!

Naruto
12-11-2008, 10:01 PM
Show me the pic....I've been wtching the series since i was like 6 or 5.....I know stuff...NOW SHOW ME THE PIC!

What pic? It's 6 AM here. Do you think this is a time for me to take a camera and shoot some pictures?

Jonin
12-11-2008, 10:02 PM
Show me the pic....I've been wtching the series since i was like 6 or 5.....I know stuff...NOW SHOW ME THE PIC!

You should read into about the third page of the 428 discussion and catch up in this argument and see what you think about it.

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-11-2008, 10:04 PM
Here we go. Lol, i know ALOT about DB. I've been watching it for 3 years, and i have every manga book lieing next to me.

:lmao: ONLY 3 years? I've been watching since 1999!:lmao:
Now, restate your arguements in a clearer post, please. Everyone do this.:nod:

NaruHina_fan_girl
12-11-2008, 10:04 PM
What pic? It's 6 AM here. Do you think this is a time for me to take a camera and shoot some pictures?

You said u have like evrey manga by u...PROVE IT :nod:

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-11-2008, 10:05 PM
You said u have like evrey manga by u...PROVE IT :nod:

Yeah, biatch! Prove it! Lol.

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-11-2008, 10:08 PM
How can you say SSJ isn't a bloodline. If a half saiyan could do it, why couldn't any full blood do it. I fail to see your reasoning.

And thats why you fail at life.:nod: Lol.

Dazzel Uchiha
12-11-2008, 10:08 PM
:lmao: ONLY 3 years? I've been watching since 1999!:lmao:
Now, restate your arguements in a clearer post, please. Everyone do this.:nod:

LOL!!!!!!!!!! i don't believe it!!! iam the only 1 tht seen it in 1998!!!!!!!!

:tobi:

Naruto
12-11-2008, 10:08 PM
:lmao: ONLY 3 years? I've been watching since 1999!:lmao:
Now, restate your arguements in a clearer post, please. Everyone do this.:nod:

You said u have like evrey manga by u...PROVE IT :nod:

Yeah, biatch! Prove it! Lol.

Judging from there posts, i don't even think i'll be needing the manga.
I'm NOT going to take pictures at 6 AM. Forget it.

And uber, sometimes it's better to have knowledge, than to watch an anime without thinking. Now please state your arguements why Super Saiyan is NOT a bloodline.

NaruHina_fan_girl
12-11-2008, 10:09 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!!! i don't believe it!!! iam the only 1 tht seen it in 1998!!!!!!!!

:tobi:

*high fives dkz* Trust me we have:nod:

sE pRoDiGy
12-11-2008, 10:09 PM
[QUOTE=sE pRoDiGy;322917]

No. I know. Its what he posted right after I made the link for here. He was saying he was a huge fan and trying to call out Kawaii.

*wipes forhead* o0o thought i made an accidental enemy(enemy by accident lmao)...(herd u can bite some heads off)

Jonin
12-11-2008, 10:10 PM
:lmao: ONLY 3 years? I've been watching since 1999!:lmao:
Now, restate your arguements in a clearer post, please. Everyone do this.:nod:

Someone was comparing the Rasengan to SSJ. I said that SSJ was a bloodline and Rasengan was a technique that can be achieved by anyone. (technically) Then you went batshit crazy on me saying that SSJ wasn't a bloodline.

[QUOTE=TheLastJonin;322923]

*wipes forhead* o0o thought i made an accidental enemy(enemy by accident lmao)...(herd u can bite some heads off)

I have been known to be quite vicious. :D

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-11-2008, 10:11 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!!! i don't believe it!!! iam the only 1 tht seen it in 1998!!!!!!!!

:tobi:

Cool:cool:

KN, did you read NOTHING of my using Bardock as an example?

Yes, Jonin, its too true. SSJ is NOT a bloodline.:nod:

Naruto
12-11-2008, 10:11 PM
Bloodline: a technique, that only people with a certain type of blood (for example, SAIYANS) can perform.

/thread.

Jonin
12-11-2008, 10:13 PM
And thats why you fail at life.:nod: Lol.

Back up your theory. I have yet to be proven wrong in mine. I don't think you can. I think you are avoiding talking about it because you are wrong.

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-11-2008, 10:13 PM
Bloodline: a technique, that only people with a certain type of blood (for example, SAIYANS) can perform.

/thread.

And where did you get this definition from, KN?

Jonin, repost your crap, please. My Wii is kinda sliw and I dont want to jump around reading the stuff...-_-'

Dazzel Uchiha
12-11-2008, 10:13 PM
*high fives dkz* Trust me we have:nod:

Good ^^ :D

2 guys watches DB at 1998 ^^

.D.
12-11-2008, 10:15 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!!! i don't believe it!!! iam the only 1 tht seen it in 1998!!!!!!!!

:tobi:

I've seen it back in 1995.

Jonin
12-11-2008, 10:18 PM
How the :cussing: does Kono knowing the Rasengan make it a less cool move? I think that that's freakin' awesome! Its pretty obvious that Konohamaru would train extremely hard to fight for the title of Hokage. I mean, look: Konohamaru became a Konoha-nin at the age of ten. Naruto and even Neji became ninjas at twelve. Twelve! Now tell me, how is Kono NOT an excellent shinobi? OK, it took Naruto like two weeks to learn the jutsu with barely any grasp on chakra control etc. Konohamaru has had a pretty good grasp of that stuuf most likely. We know this because, well, Ebisu's a freakin' rulebook-type person.

And Rasengan is not a wind type jutsu. Its pretty obvious because Naruto had to ADD THE WIND ELEMENT for Fuuton Rasengan, retards... Rasengan is basically a mini Rotation in the palm of your hand.:nod:


Dragonball is a different case. In dragonball there really wasn't such character depth as there is in Naruto. Dragonball was more about the action than the plot. They used the SSJ to escalate power levels more quickly for the happy ending. SSJ is a bloodline and could be activated with the right emotion. Rasengan requires hardwork and dedication. If it showed all of Konohamaru's hard work previous to this and all he went threw and if he had a way bigger part in the story, I really wouldn't have minded. Just throwing this in there cheapens Naruto.


Bull:cussing: You know how I know that's a lie? BARDOCK WASN'T A FRICKIN SUPER SAIYAN. And that whole Chi-chi BS was nothin but added frames to elongate the episode. If you read the manga, you would know that there is no show of training between Goten and Chi-chi.:nod:


We will just continue it from here.

As I was saying, SSJ is a bloodline limit. You say it isn't.

Naruto
12-11-2008, 10:19 PM
And where did you get this definition from, KN?

Jonin, repost your crap, please. My Wii is kinda sliw and I dont want to jump around reading the stuff...-_-'

Because it's pure logic. A bloodline, requires a certain kind of blood.


http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj42/power_his_pala/Redundancy.jpg

Dazzel Uchiha
12-11-2008, 10:23 PM
We will just continue it from here.

As I was saying, SSJ is a bloodline limit. You say it isn't.

Yeah,SSJ is a bloodline limit.The reason why,the other saiyans (other thn Goku,Goten,Gohan,Trunks and Vegeta) can't perform the SSJ because all of them were DESTROYED by Frieza.:nod:

sE pRoDiGy
12-11-2008, 10:24 PM
I have been known to be quite vicious. :D

heh i see lol

.... (not tryin 2 be a D***) but who cares how long u've seen it the facts are what matters....i mean i've seen it 4 a couple years and even saw it a couple more times :laugh:

and the facts are that only saiyans!!! can turn into a supersaiyan just like only uchihas are born with the sharringan (its all in the blood)

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-11-2008, 10:24 PM
We will just continue it from here.

As I was saying, SSJ is a bloodline limit. You say it isn't.

No. SSJ is not bloodline. We can see this because Bardock was not SSJ.

(I know, I already said that. Just refute again. Now that my head is cooled, we can be civilized. XDDD)

Jonin
12-11-2008, 10:25 PM
Yeah,SSJ is a bloodline limit.The reason why,the other saiyans (other thn Goku,Goten,Gohan,Trunks and Vegeta) can't perform the SSJ because all of them were DESTROYED by Frieza.:nod:

Wow, Uber. Even dkz knows more about DB than you. :laugh:

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-11-2008, 10:26 PM
Yeah,SSJ is a bloodline limit.The reason why,the other saiyans (other thn Goku,Goten,Gohan,Trunks and Vegeta) can't perform the SSJ because all of them were DESTROYED by Frieza.:nod:

Yes, but I'm pretty sure there were othere extremely powerful Saiyans out there. Why weren't THEY SSJ???

Lol. Shutit, Jonin!:D

.D.
12-11-2008, 10:27 PM
No. SSJ is not bloodline. We can see this because Bardock was not SSJ.

(I know, I already said that. Just refute again. Now that my head is cooled, we can be civilized. XDDD)

It seems no matter what we say you'll just be like, "NOPE BARDOCK WASN'T NO SSJ SO BLARGGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!(firin' lazah)"

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-11-2008, 10:29 PM
It seems no matter what we say you'll just be like, "NOPE BARDOCK WASN'T NO SSJ SO BLARGGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!(firin' lazah)"

:lmao:
Apparently you didn't see the post I just did.:laugh:

Jonin
12-11-2008, 10:31 PM
No. SSJ is not bloodline. We can see this because Bardock was not SSJ.

(I know, I already said that. Just refute again. Now that my head is cooled, we can be civilized. XDDD)

Bardock wasn't a SSJ because of his strength. A SSJ is usually around the power level of Frieza. I don't know why you are saying it isn't a bloodline. Are you saying that the Truffles can be SSJ? I think you are mistaken on the meaning of bloodline.

Dazzel Uchiha
12-11-2008, 10:32 PM
Yes, but I'm pretty sure there were othere extremely powerful Saiyans out there. Why weren't THEY SSJ???

Lol. Shutit, Jonin!:D

ok...........normally,to become a SSJ,u need ONE requirement.That Is:

1.Anger/Hatred (seeing ur best friend die or something)

.D.
12-11-2008, 10:33 PM
:lmao:
Apparently you didn't see the post I just did.:laugh:

When I posted my post, your post right before that post wasn't posted yet.

Also, in regards to your comment on the other saiyans, yeah, they weren't quite powerful enough to turn super saiyan just yet. Remember that even King Vegeta was damn near powerless to hurt Frieza in his first form and he was allegedly the most powerful Saiyan at the time (not including Broly, considering we didn't know of his existence until the movie.) Most of them were simply not strong enough to go Super Saiyan yet, and Bardock definitely wasn't capable at that point.

Jonin
12-11-2008, 10:35 PM
When I posted my post, your post right before that post wasn't posted yet.

Also, in regards to your comment on the other saiyans, yeah, they weren't quite powerful enough to turn super saiyan just yet. Remember that even King Vegeta was damn near powerless to hurt Frieza in his first form and he was allegedly the most powerful Saiyan at the time (not including Broly, considering we didn't know of his existence until the movie.) Most of them were simply not strong enough to go Super Saiyan yet, and Bardock definitely wasn't capable at that point.

To add on to this, all Saiyans have the potential to go SSJ. IT IS IN THEIR BLOOD! :yell:

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-11-2008, 10:38 PM
ok...........normally,to become a SSJ,u need ONE requirement.That Is:

1.Anger/Hatred (seeing ur best friend die or something)

Your point was your one fatal mistake: Bardock DID see his best firend die, remember?:nod:

Jonin, don't go and start making misconseptions..............-_-.......
I think all of us were just arguing a completely different thing...
I was TRYING to say that it is clear that SSJ isn't bloodline since an SSJ is only born every 1,000 years (Before Cell & Buu saga when we learn that it runs in the younguns' blood!:p) while you guys were trying to say the only Saiyans can go SSJ.:nervous:
Am I correct?:confused:

Jonin
12-11-2008, 10:41 PM
Your point was your one fatal mistake: Bardock DID see his best firend die, remember?:nod:

Jonin, don't go and start making misconseptions..............-_-.......
I think all of us were just arguing a completely different thing...
I was TRYING to say that it is clear that SSJ isn't bloodline since an SSJ is only born every 1,000 years (Before Cell & Buu saga when we learn that it runs in the younguns' blood!:p) while you guys were trying to say the only Saiyans can go SSJ.:nervous:
Am I correct?:confused:

Yes, I believe we are arguing different things. Kind of.

You say that that SSJ is born once every 1,000 years. Well why are there so many of them in the same generation? Plus, Brolly was the only Legendary SSJ. He was the one of legend. I still fail to see how you say SSJ isn't a bloodline. I am saying that all Saiyans have the potential to go SSJ.

sE pRoDiGy
12-11-2008, 10:43 PM
Your point was your one fatal mistake: Bardock DID see his best firend die, remember?:nod:

Jonin, don't go and start making misconseptions..............-_-.......
I think all of us were just arguing a completely different thing...
I was TRYING to say that it is clear that SSJ isn't bloodline since an SSJ is only born every 1,000 years (Before Cell & Buu saga when we learn that it runs in the younguns' blood!:p) while you guys were trying to say the only Saiyans can go SSJ.:nervous:
Am I correct?:confused:

bardock didnt actually c him die he saw him already dead didnt he???

and that is "legendary super saiyan" that you are refering 2
(broly is the saiyan thats born every 1000 years)

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-11-2008, 10:45 PM
When I posted my post, your post right before that post wasn't posted yet.

Also, in regards to your comment on the other saiyans, yeah, they weren't quite powerful enough to turn super saiyan just yet. Remember that even King Vegeta was damn near powerless to hurt Frieza in his first form and he was allegedly the most powerful Saiyan at the time (not including Broly, considering we didn't know of his existence until the movie.) Most of them were simply not strong enough to go Super Saiyan yet, and Bardock definitely wasn't capable at that point.

Thank you for being so clear. You gets some repz! Thanks for not giving vague hints (LIKE DEFINITIONS made of "logic") and using well-written words.:tobi:

Naruto
12-11-2008, 10:47 PM
Yes, but I'm pretty sure there were othere extremely powerful Saiyans out there. Why weren't THEY SSJ???

Lol. Shutit, Jonin!:D

Because they are dead.

When I posted my post, your post right before that post wasn't posted yet.


http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj42/power_his_pala/fymjav.jpg

Your point was your one fatal mistake: Bardock DID see his best firend die, remember?:nod:

I was TRYING to say that it is clear that SSJ isn't bloodline since an SSJ is only born every 1,000 years

In the manga, there are several Saiyans that can become a super saiyan. Therefore this has become a bloodline limit, and not something rare that happens every 100 years. Bloodline => to do with your BLOOD. They all have Saiyan blood.

Yes, I believe we are arguing different things. Kind of.

You say that that SSJ is born once every 1,000 years. Well why are there so many of them in the same generation? Plus, Brolly was the only Legendary SSJ. He was the one of legend. I still fail to see how you say SSJ isn't a bloodline. I am saying that all Saiyans have the potential to go SSJ.

This. ^

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-11-2008, 10:48 PM
bardock didnt actually c him die he saw him already dead didnt he???

and that is "legendary super saiyan" that you are refering 2
(broly is the saiyan thats born every 1000 years)

No, he was still alive. Bardock was holding him in his arms and the dude (Shugesh, right?) died with a smile after saying some stuff.:nod:

And, honestly, isn't Broly technically filler?:laugh:

sE pRoDiGy
12-11-2008, 10:50 PM
No, he was still alive. Bardock was holding him in his arms and the dude (Shugesh, right?) died with a smile after saying some stuff.:nod:

And, honestly, isn't Broly technically filler?:laugh:

o0o0o yea

lmfao i dont kno:confused: wouldnt that suck???

Delaz
12-11-2008, 10:51 PM
First thing dont mix DBZ with Naruto its just...wrong.

Second ALL Saiyans can turn super all they have to have is the true NEED for the power not a WANT but genuine need like Goku when he NEEDED the power to beat Frieza to protect/avenge his friends.

Trust me on this one i was watching DBZ since i was 4 so yeah.

Dazzel Uchiha
12-11-2008, 10:51 PM
Your point was your one fatal mistake: Bardock DID see his best firend die, remember?:nod:



yeah,but he was weakened by Frieza's soldiers,and he hadn't had any chance to be a Super Saiyan.Frieza killed him with a Death Ball.:ssj:

Jonin
12-11-2008, 10:51 PM
No, he was still alive. Bardock was holding him in his arms and the dude (Shugesh, right?) died with a smile after saying some stuff.:nod:

And, honestly, isn't Broly technically filler?:laugh:

Broly is your whole defense to your theory. You just discarded him. So, explain how there is only one SSJ that comes along every 1000 years. I am curious.

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-11-2008, 10:52 PM
First thing dont mix DBZ with Naruto its just...wrong.

Second ALL Saiyans can turn super all they have to have is the true NEED for the power not a WANT but genuine need like Goku when he NEEDED the power to beat Frieza to protect/avenge his friends

Nope. Wrong. Epic Fail. Vegeta WANTED to be SSJ. Prove me wrong! (foo!)
And who said Bardock didn't need it? Of course he needed it, dude! Freeza was about to destroy his home planet! XDDDD

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-11-2008, 10:55 PM
In the manga, there are several Saiyans that can become a super saiyan. Therefore this has become a bloodline limit, and not something rare that happens every 100 years. Bloodline => to do with your BLOOD. They all have Saiyan blood.



You lack counting skillz... FIVE isn't several...:laugh:

Naruto
12-11-2008, 10:55 PM
Nope. Wrong. Epic Fail. Vegeta WANTED to be SSJ. Prove me wrong! (foo!)
And who said Bardock didn't need it? Of course he needed it, dude! Freeza was about to destroy his home planet! XDDDD

Requirements to become a SS:

Rage
Extreme emotions
Pure evil, or pure goodness, no in between

That's all. You're talking crap right now, Uber.

You lack counting skillz... FIVE isn't several...:laugh:

Several =/= a number. It's more then one. It could even mean 3, 4 or 5.

sE pRoDiGy
12-11-2008, 10:55 PM
Nope. Wrong. Epic Fail. Vegeta WANTED to be SSJ. Prove me wrong! (foo!)
And who said Bardock didn't need it? Of course he needed it, dude! Freeza was about to destroy his home planet! XDDDD

yea he wanted and he trained and trained but couldnt do it

then he had 2 protect his ship and stuff and he got pissed and he "didnt care about being a supersaiyan" in his words so0o he didnt want 2 anymore ...then BOOM supersaiyan cuz he NEEDED it cuz he was alll f**** up :laugh:

Rage
Extreme emotions
Pure evil, or pure goodness, no in between

yup yup good= goku and the fam lol

evil = vegeta :laugh: sorta

Delaz
12-11-2008, 10:59 PM
Nope. Wrong. Epic Fail. Vegeta WANTED to be SSJ. Prove me wrong! (foo!)
And who said Bardock didn't need it? Of course he needed it, dude! Freeza was about to destroy his home planet! XDDDD
Vegeta turned SSJ after seeing Goku turn SSJ he himseld turned into one because he had the NEED to surpass Goku the whole brawl on Namek if pure want could turn someone SSJ vegeta would have been one already. Cause on Namek he just wanted to be a super saiyan to for his own purposes. Back on Earth he turned SSJ out f the NEED to be more powerful and to surpass Goku and the Androids.

DONT MAKE ME NEG REP U!!!
I GOT PROOF OF THIS FACT!!!

PS
I have been watching DBZ since i was 4...im 18 now....do the math.

Jonin
12-11-2008, 10:59 PM
Nope. Wrong. Epic Fail. Vegeta WANTED to be SSJ. Prove me wrong! (foo!)
And who said Bardock didn't need it? Of course he needed it, dude! Freeza was about to destroy his home planet! XDDDD

Bardock might have needed it but he didn't have enough power. As for Vegeta wanting to be SSJ, yeah he wanted it, but to Vegeta he needed it. He needed to be better than Goku. It was that rage and sorrow of trying so hard and not being able to accomplish it that sent him over the edge.

Dazzel Uchiha
12-11-2008, 10:59 PM
yea he wanted and he trained and trained but couldnt do it

then he had 2 protect his ship and stuff and he got pissed and he "didnt care about being a supersaiyan" in his words so0o he didnt want 2 anymore ...then BOOM supersaiyan cuz he NEEDED it cuz he was alll f**** up :laugh:



yup yup good= goku and the fam lol

evil = vegeta :laugh: sorta



yeah,tht's how Vegeta became a Super Saiyan :ssj:

Delaz
12-11-2008, 11:05 PM
The first Super Saiyan transformation happens when a Saiyan who has reached his natural limit loses himself in a fit of rage. However, the transformation must be triggered in response to a great need, in Goku's case to defeat Frieza.

That is the exact of how one turn SSJ

Bardock could not cause he probably wasn't at his natural limit and he wasn't enraged.

Check all the chars who turned SSJ for the 1st time they all fit the criteria

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-11-2008, 11:05 PM
*Sigh* Screw this, man. I'll be the meek one. OK. You win. Whatever. I suppose you guys gave good arguements, seeing it was like, SEVEN AGAINST ONE.
Whatever. This arguement is pointless. Our views won't change, anyway... Peace out and God bless.

Jonin
12-11-2008, 11:06 PM
The first Super Saiyan transformation happens when a Saiyan who has reached his natural limit loses himself in a fit of rage. However, the transformation must be triggered in response to a great need, in Goku's case to defeat Frieza.

That is the exact of how one turn SSJ

Bardock could not cause he probably wasn't at his natural limit and he wasn't enraged.

Check all the chars who turned SSJ for the 1st time they all fit the criteria

Word.

sE pRoDiGy
12-11-2008, 11:10 PM
The first Super Saiyan transformation happens when a Saiyan who has reached his natural limit loses himself in a fit of rage. However, the transformation must be triggered in response to a great need, in Goku's case to defeat Frieza.

That is the exact of how one turn SSJ

Bardock could not cause he probably wasn't at his natural limit and he wasn't enraged.

Check all the chars who turned SSJ for the 1st time they all fit the criteria

heh A++ that even applys 2 goten and trunk so0 nice :thumbsup:

Naruto
12-11-2008, 11:11 PM
*Sigh* Screw this, man. I'll be the meek one. OK. You win. Whatever. I suppose you guys gave good arguements, seeing it was like, SEVEN AGAINST ONE.
Whatever. This arguement is pointless. Our views won't change, anyway... Peace out and God bless.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj42/power_his_pala/ueberb.png

Delaz
12-11-2008, 11:13 PM
*sigh* screw this, man. I'll be the meek one. Ok. You win. Whatever. I suppose you guys gave good arguements, seeing it was like, seven against one.
Whatever. This arguement is pointless. Our views won't change, anyway... Peace out and god bless.
respect me!
(making a motivational to show this)

Dazzel Uchiha
12-11-2008, 11:15 PM
respect me!

*kick ur butt*

Respect Me! :laugh:

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-11-2008, 11:15 PM
respect me!

Pssh! You ain't gettin' respect from this one!

Naruto
12-11-2008, 11:16 PM
*Sigh* Screw this, man. I'll be the meek one. OK. You win. Whatever. I suppose you guys gave good arguements, seeing it was like, SEVEN AGAINST ONE.
Whatever. This arguement is pointless. Our views won't change, anyway... Peace out and God bless.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj42/power_his_pala/ueberb.png

Dazzel Uchiha
12-11-2008, 11:18 PM
Pssh! You ain't gettin' respect from this one!

then,RESPECT ME! :cool:

Delaz
12-11-2008, 11:26 PM
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa78/delaz1405/MoticationalRespect.jpg

KN if you have the black and white template like you use can you send it to me?

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-11-2008, 11:27 PM
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa78/delaz1405/MoticationalRespect.jpg

How 'bout you go get lost in some tall grass? And jump in a lake while you at it! XDDD:laugh:

Naruto
12-11-2008, 11:32 PM
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa78/delaz1405/MoticationalRespect.jpg

KN if you have the black and white template like you use can you send it to me?

I create them myself, sorry.
I'll check if i have the PSD somewhere.

Dazzel Uchiha
12-11-2008, 11:34 PM
How 'bout you go get lost in some tall grass? And jump in a lake while you at it! XDDD:laugh:

*kick ur butt to a nearby river*

Take That! I have just become........A SUPER SAIYAN!!! :ssj:

-sh|nob|-
12-12-2008, 12:57 AM
-_-

Legendary Super Saiyan is a bloodline thing. If not, they should have called it Legendary Super thingy machigy watever. Having the word "Saiyan" as the title gives it away.

Jonin
12-12-2008, 06:07 AM
-_-

Legendary Super Saiyan is a bloodline thing. If not, they should have called it Legendary Super thingy machigy watever. Having the word "Saiyan" as the title gives it away.

Shin agrees so Uber loses.

Josh-sama
12-12-2008, 04:29 PM
No. SSJ is not bloodline. We can see this because Bardock was not SSJ.

(I know, I already said that. Just refute again. Now that my head is cooled, we can be civilized. XDDD)

Oh my God.
Are you that moronic?

You don't see Naruto activating a Sharingan do you?
or Picollo going SSJ?

Super Saiyan Jin is in the Blood of SAIYANS, as is Oozaru.
Sharingan is in the blood of UCHIHA.

It just takes a certain event or skills to unlock.

Goku unlocked it, when Krillin was killed.
Obito unlocked it, when he was determined to save his friends.

You seriously need a slap if you can't see the similarity.

Ajnin Tsim Rebu
12-12-2008, 05:31 PM
Shin agrees so Uber loses.

Thats whats wrong with this forum.

.D.
12-12-2008, 05:58 PM
Thats whats wrong with this forum.

I could think of plenty more things than that.

Jonin
12-12-2008, 07:03 PM
Arguing with Uber is like arguing with dkz which is not unlike arguing with a mule.

SSJ is a bloodline. Final. Argument over. You have been proven wrong.

-sh|nob|-
12-12-2008, 07:30 PM
Thats whats wrong with this forum.

hah?

-_-

i didnt read the previous posts so i aint sortah agreeing on anything. i juz believe that SSJ is a bloodline thing. its pretty obvious, anyway. :rolleyes:

it juz so happens that most of us believed on the same thing. You're the only one and your sister dont. -_-

Shaggy
12-12-2008, 07:38 PM
i heard somewhere a few times actually. i dont know if it wuz in the anime, manga or an interview with akira but anywayz this is wat i heard:

the reason why there's only a handful of saiyans that have turned into a super saiyan is because all of those saiyans had their tail removed thus giving them the potential to achieve the next level of saiyan power.

it makes sense actually. all saiyans have relied on the power of the ozaru to become more powerful that they never thought bout removing them. and no one was strong enough (except frieza) to remove them or cut them off.

but i have no tangible proof of this. but i am 99% sure i heard it from one of those reliable resources.

oh and super saiyan IS a bloodline limit. u dont see krillin goin super saiyan. super saiyan is LIMITED to those who's BLOOD belongs to the SAIYAN LINE and or race

Sharp
12-12-2008, 10:25 PM
Yes any sayian can be a super sayian if they are their natural limit and have a need not want to do something. the legendary supersayian thing only once every one thousand years a LEGENDARY super sayian would be born meaning he would have super sayian powers beyond a super sayian meaning his first stage would compare to ss2 or ss3. ss is a bloodline limit tho i can see ur logic on freeza saga and the creater w/e.

Josh-sama
12-13-2008, 04:15 AM
Arguing with Uber is like arguing with dkz which is not unlike arguing with a mule.

SSJ is a bloodline. Final. Argument over. You have been proven wrong.

If Uber does still not get it.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k93/chrishorgen/Funnay/facepalm.jpg

Jonin
12-13-2008, 04:16 AM
If Uber does still not get it.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k93/chrishorgen/Funnay/facepalm.jpg

I don't think he is posting here anymore. He knows he is wrong. Epic Win! *Jump Hi-Five!*

Dazzel Uchiha
12-13-2008, 05:30 AM
I don't think he is posting here anymore. He knows he is wrong. Epic Win! *Jump Hi-Five!*

Good then,this thread is over ^^

Josh-sama
12-13-2008, 11:15 AM
I don't think he is posting here anymore. He knows he is wrong. Epic Win! *Jump Hi-Five!*

*Jump Hi-Five!*


DKZ I will track you down and destroy you.
You will never be part of our organization. You are too naive and moronic.

Best101
12-14-2008, 09:11 PM
If you have at least 50% Saiyan blood you can go SSJ.

LOL!!!!!!!!!! i don't believe it!!! iam the only 1 tht seen it in 1998!!!!!!!!

:tobi:

lol I've been watching since it first Dubbed in English and aired in the United States.

Raizen
12-14-2008, 09:19 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!!! i don't believe it!!! iam the only 1 tht seen it in 1998!!!!!!!!

:tobi:

nuhun bro me too.

tsunadesloverlol
12-16-2008, 09:56 AM
srry to bring up this when everybody says its over but anywon can reach a super form wat about the super namek lord slug

.D.
12-16-2008, 07:47 PM
srry to bring up this when everybody says its over but anywon can reach a super form wat about the super namek lord slug

We're talking about Super Saiyan. Super Namek is a completely different issue.

Jonin
12-16-2008, 08:11 PM
*Sigh*

This thread just makes me want to stab Uber. Bloodline. He just doesn't understand it.

Delaz
12-16-2008, 08:18 PM
*Sigh*

This thread just makes me want to stab Uber. Bloodline. He just doesn't understand it.
Uber is ...(insert Facepalm Pic here)

Foote
12-16-2008, 08:46 PM
Saiyans can tap into Super Saiyan, it's their races power. A "bloodline limit" I guess you could say. And like Best101 said, you need at least 50% Saiyan blood.

If you think/say otherwise, you're a moron and don't know anything about DB.