Who is stronger?

[Beier135]

OKay????Who is stronger, 4 tailed Naruto, or 2nd curse Mark Sauske?

Naruto Sauske

[naruto maniac]

naruto 4 tailed!!!no 2nd thot,but saskue can control kyuubi so......idk

[Suicidal-kun]

4-tailed Naruto if it wasn't for the fact that Sasuke can control the Kyuubi's chakra. But, I'm still gonna go with Naruto.

[Dark-reign]

im gonna go with Sasuke on the account that he strong even with his cursed seal gone, and he has his mangekyo sharigan plus Itachi's sharigan abilities so i think sasuke is the strongest

[chryblossom]

sasuke, he can control kyuubi, has a new sharingan, stronger jutsus, and itachi's amaterasu

[Soi Fong]

I actually would have voted for Naruto, but out of the three of these character Lee is my favorite.

P.S. Beirier (sorry if i spelled your name wrong) your not alone, I too am a Lee fan. :laugh:

[forthewest]

i'ma go with naruto...but sasuke can't control the kyuubi's chakra...he can surppress it not control it:)

[McrTheUsedMcr]

4-tailed naruto for sure.

[Mangekyou Itachi]

naruto 4tk

[KyuubiDemonYoko]

naruto especillay after the toad training

[sumer]

Sasuke ftw. He can control the nine tailed fox.

[jiraiya19]

i think that right now and i cannot believe i am gonna say this but sasuke is stronger, only because he now has a stronger sharingan and has somehow made his chidori stronger then narutos rasengan, however just barely, i think that naruto is going to be stronger then sasuke soon though, because he is about to learn the sage arts which will make him kick ass strong, plus naruto still has to complete the rasengan since it is only half finished, and plus u cant forget that itachi gave naruto some of his own power, we still dont know wat kind of power that does, it might make it so that the nine tailed fox's chakra be supressed by the sharingan, and dont forget that naruto is learning how to fight without using the nine tailed fox to help, so adding everything up naruto still seems more bad ass then sasuke and just needs a little more tuning up and he will pwn sasuke no prob

[Infinity]

Sasuke's stronger than Naruto, but I think Naruto will surpass Sasuke... Just like what Jaraiya19 explained... He's training without the Kyubii's chakra, so if he has trouble with Sasuke he has the Kyubii's charka as backup... Naruto will surpass Sasuke, I am very sure of it... Seriously what kind of main character is not stronger that the rival?... He/she is the main character! :nod:

[Kamiaiwai]

Four-Tailed Naruto. Much more chakra, much more power.

[jacobjumba]

its pretty obvious its sauske, whether you guys like it or not or want to admit it or not. he beat the 8 tailed bijui...so why couldnt he beat naruto 4 tails, adding on the curse seal and his ms. its just common sense

[LeMans]

sasuke; i think- because the sharingan can control the kyubi:)
although ..i think they're both even.
and lee is just adorable..:D he makes me laugh a lot:laugh:

[star x x shine]

Screw Sasuke.
Naruto is stronger; definitely. ;D

[NinjaJd]

Hey thanks for posting Rock Lee as an option for us Rock Lee fans, that was really nice of you :)... and of course I picked Rock Lee he is the strongest ninja because if he activated all his gates he'd be able to kill anyone since he would be moveing so fast he wouldnt be visible to the human eye, maybe a little green spec on the sharingan at best, unfortunetly it would cost him his life, but he'd still be able to finish off anyone like that :nod:.

[tszuke]

Naruto all the way!!! He can kick anybodys ass!!!

[dragaman]

lee is the strongest physically. but if your talking over all strangth it is a toss up between naruto and sasuke, that being said naruto had to work for every last thing he got where sasuke was given almost every little thing or he simply copyed it most of the time. at the base power of those two individuals(ie. no CS, 9TK, MS/EMS, or Sage Training) naruto pwns think about it during the fights we see sasuke "power up" him self before naruto or any one else hes fighting.

[Zack Fair]

its pretty obvious its sauske, whether you guys like it or not or want to admit it or not. he beat the 8 tailed bijui...so why couldnt he beat naruto 4 tails, adding on the curse seal and his ms. its just common sense

It's not as obvious as you think. Just because he beat the Hachibi, doesn't mean he'd beat 4 tailed Naruto. Remember, the two creatures have entirely different abilities and attributes. The 8 tails was vulnerable to Amaterasu, because his body was all flesh, and unprotected. 4 tailed Naruto is entirely protected by the Kyuubi's immensely powerful and hot chakra. Remember, none or Oro's attacks could harm him. One of his clones even desintegrated immediately after he made contact with him. Also, because of the preculiar way Kyubi's chakra moves, Sasuke's sharingan can't predict it's moves. As shown when he and Sasuke fought in the Valley of the End. And Sasuke cannot control the Kyubi, but rather supress it. Meaning, once the 4 tails are released, Sasuke is out of luck lol. So my vote is for 4 tailed Naruto 100%.

[NaruHina_fan_girl]

rock lee ftw!!!!

[SuperSonicKeeX]

i think that right now and i cannot believe i am gonna say this but sasuke is stronger, only because he now has a stronger sharingan and has somehow made his chidori stronger then narutos rasengan, however just barely, i think that naruto is going to be stronger then sasuke soon though, because he is about to learn the sage arts which will make him kick ass strong, plus naruto still has to complete the rasengan since it is only half finished, and plus u cant forget that itachi gave naruto some of his own power, we still dont know wat kind of power that does, it might make it so that the nine tailed fox's chakra be supressed by the sharingan, and dont forget that naruto is learning how to fight without using the nine tailed fox to help, so adding everything up naruto still seems more bad ass then sasuke and just needs a little more tuning up and he will pwn sasuke no prob

So freakin true :trunks:

When Naruto masters the Sage Arts, his ALREADY enormous amounts of chakra will be reserved and he can use wind nature to attack, while Sasuke has to use his own chakra now that Orochimaru's dead and the curse seal is useless. Just think how powerful Naruto would be if he releases Kyuubi chakra (no tails) while using the saga arts...he'll be using powerful jutsu like the Ultimate Rasengan in no time.

BTW, Rock Lee's a beast no matter what!

[Sureno]

saasuke looks strong idk his true strength then naruto then lee although lee's drunken fist is still pwnage

[Extinction]

OKay????Who is stronger, 4 tailed Naruto, or 2nd curse Mark Sauske?

Naruto Sauske

u talking about the manga? the show? Right now at this moment in the shippuuden anime. I'd say SasGay is stronger. but soon in the next few months Naruto will probably be stronger. People keep saying sasGay can control the Kyubii? I thought he could just supress their power that they give for assistance? Not that Naruto's using it so that doesn't matter at all. Can't Naruto escape anything that those stupid eyes can put him in now? Narutos a few steps behind. but once he catches up w/ his element traing and forming NEW teq's he should be well over sasGays' match.

[MageMustang]

It's his series he has to be the strongest character. Well, at least in the end.

[d assassain]

gotta say 4-tailed naruto especially since the fact that sasuke doesnt have the curse mark anymore

[Naruto]

He beats Sasuke in every way. Cuteness, tactics, chakra,... Uzumaki Naruto.
Pwn that emo!

[flAccid snAke]

Deffinitely Naruto. Sasuke (like many have already pointed out) has basically been handed most of his abilities on a silver platter. Naruto has worked his ass off to get to where he is. The way things are currently, I'd say the fight would be pretty even, but Sasuke has the upper hand. However, once Naruto finishes learning senjutsu, Sasuke had better watch out.

Take a look at their newest abilities. Naruto's senjutsu replenishes energy as it is used. Sasuke's MS, though powerful, causes him to go blind the more he uses it. The facts don't lie...

Naruto > Sasuke.

[Dimetrius]

The obvious ans is of course sasuke since he can easily manipulate the kyuubi's chakra and reseal at his own wish not to mention the MS. Naruto doesn't stand a chance against any uchiha.

[flAccid snAke]

The obvious ans is of course sasuke since he can easily manipulate the kyuubi's chakra and reseal at his own wish not to mention the MS. Naruto doesn't stand a chance against any uchiha.

Hahaha... funny. But seriously, let's be realistic. Naruto is the main character. He's gonna beat Sasuke one way or another whether you like it or not. End of story. :D

[GATSU21]

Ounce Naruto finishes his training he will be the strongest character in the whole series. From the looks of it he can obsord the natural chakra better than Jaraiya did. and he also has the ultimate jutsu rasen shuriken. Sauske has always used borrowed powers to win his battles. Itachi could have easily killed him if wanted to.

Also if Sauske can control the tailed beast why didnt he stop killer bee from transforming into the eight tales beast?

[Soul Star]

Naruto by far...

[jacobjumba]

It's not as obvious as you think. Just because he beat the Hachibi, doesn't mean he'd beat 4 tailed Naruto. Remember, the two creatures have entirely different abilities and attributes. The 8 tails was vulnerable to Amaterasu, because his body was all flesh, and unprotected. 4 tailed Naruto is entirely protected by the Kyuubi's immensely powerful and hot chakra. Remember, none or Oro's attacks could harm him. One of his clones even desintegrated immediately after he made contact with him. Also, because of the preculiar way Kyubi's chakra moves, Sasuke's sharingan can't predict it's moves. As shown when he and Sasuke fought in the Valley of the End. And Sasuke cannot control the Kyubi, but rather supress it. Meaning, once the 4 tails are released, Sasuke is out of luck lol. So my vote is for 4 tailed Naruto 100%.

but if he suppresses it in the beggining narutos ****ed. and you should go back and read the manga, because once sauske activated all 3 tomes, he predicted narutos movement...so who knows what he could see with his ms. sauske is just too powerful for naruto at the moment...

[xXlonershadowXx]

Naruto

[boklipop23]

I put LEE-KUN!

[DrunkRockLee]

sauske sucks naruto and lee are better

[Zack Fair]

but if he suppresses it in the beggining narutos ****ed. and you should go back and read the manga, because once sauske activated all 3 tomes, he predicted narutos movement...so who knows what he could see with his ms. sauske is just too powerful for naruto at the moment...

I already know what happens in the chapter. Naruto envoked the full 1 tail after Sasuke's 3rd tomoe appeared. What you are talking about is when Naruto first uses it's power and is just enhanced by Kyuubi's strength, getting extra speed. Then Sasuke obtained the 3rd tomoe and beat the crap out of him. But once he used the Kyuubi's actual chakra to attack and the actual 1 tail appeared, Sasuke could hardly read it's movements with the fully evolved Sharingan. Then he was forced to fully envoke his CS.

[kitty kyoki]

naruto is stronger!!! but i also like sasuke but dumb sasuke left... after that im pissed!

[jacobjumba]

I already know what happens in the chapter. Naruto envoked the full 1 tail after Sasuke's 3rd tomoe appeared. What you are talking about is when Naruto first uses it's power and is just enhanced by Kyuubi's strength, getting extra speed. Then Sasuke obtained the 3rd tomoe and beat the crap out of him. But once he used the Kyuubi's actual chakra to attack and the actual 1 tail appeared, Sasuke could hardly read it's movements with the fully evolved Sharingan. Then he was forced to fully envoke his CS.

you have a point friend :nod:

[Zack Fair]

you have a point friend :nod:

Thank you. But you brought up a good point as well. If Sasuke subdues the Kyuubi chakra before Naruto releases it, then Naruto's screwed lol. But on the flip-side, if Sasuke acts too late, and Naruto releases the 4 tails, Sasuke is the one thats screwed lol.

[GATSU21]

If you really think about it naruto will never really need to use the nine tails chakra after he completes his training. He already has a huge amount of his own and now with the natural chakra he has no limits on chakra use. We all saw the results of using the nature chakra (ultimate rasengan).

[AfterBlaqk]

sasuke only beat the 8 tails cus he had amaterasu.... that and none of u foolz remember itachi gave naruto something to fight sasuke and told him he hoped he'd never have to use it... that and naruto has massive chakra since he can use sage, regular, and kyuubi... and he has the rasenshuriken which he could use all he wanted if he figured out how to throw it... sasuke no longer has the curse seal but he can still supress kyuubi chakra... either way it would be one intense fight

[Urahara678]

its not sasuke he weak with out his CS and he is going blind. its not lee cuz he is not a main character so its got 2 be naruto :nod:

[Freaky Devil]

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I would say Uchiha sasuke..is the stronger..I mean it is obvious..that he is stronger than..naruto..at «ONLY»the meanwhile..
Things might change..in the naruto shippuuden series..:confused:

[ickybonclay]

pick naruto. he just become a sage and going to be super strong.

[xae]

naruto

[Vaporz]

I think Naruto is way stronger than Saskue now for sure!! Yes Saskue has way more powerful jutsus than Naruto but without the cursed seal, he no longer has enough chakra to be able to pull them off the way he was able to before. If you look at all his previous battles before the 8 tails, he was always forced to use the cursed seal to give more chakra for his attacks. Thats why he had soo much trouble with the 8 tails. The only reason he was able to bring the 8 tails down in the end was because Karin and Jugo revived him twice. They sacrificed their own chakra to heal him. Having more powerful attacks is useless without having enough chakra pool to utilize them.

Since the begining, Naruto has always had twice the amount of chakra if not more than saskue. In Narutos fight with Kakasu (the akatsuki member with 5 hearts) naruto was able to pump out 9 kage bunshins and perform the wind elemental raisengan 3 times. He didn't even have to use the nine tails chakra. Now with his sage training, he can tap into even more chakra. Plus he's getting smarter and more tactful with how he uses his clones. He doesn't recklessly pump out 1k clones at once. Now he just uses the right amount for the job.

Plus naruto has way more upsides now. Minus the kyuubi, Naruto has his own huge chakra pool, sage training, chakra of his summons, plus what ever it is that Itachi gave him to help stop Saskue.

[sennin]

Naruto

[simn_stv]

at the end of the day, the protagonist of the series is naruto and he has to be the strongest (of course...) BUT right now i'd go with sasuke being the stronger one, though i dont like him much.....

[saku-chan]

sasuke beat naruto at the valley of the end

[Zack Fair]

Umm, isn't the point of this thread dicussing if 4 tailed Naruto is stronger than CS Level 2 Sasuke? Not Naruto or Sasuke, in a general sense, but rather in those forms in specific?

[Red Fox]

Yup... I think too that Naruto is stronger... And he is learning the new tecnique(does it write like that:D).

[Longcat]

I would have to say Naruto.

[kakashi2]

naruto doesnt even need his 4 tails now that he can use sage mode!!!!!!!

[Lord Ikimichi]

4 tailed naruto owns sasuke easily. and y is lee even in this convo? they both own lee

[TheTruthBetold]

Naruto...

sage training pwnage...

[Lord Ikimichi]

its not askin about sage trainin people! it said 4 tailed naruto vs 2nd stage curse mark sasuke! u people dont read original....

4 tailed naruto wins

[Zack Fair]

its not askin about sage trainin people! it said 4 tailed naruto vs 2nd stage curse mark sasuke! u people dont read original....

4 tailed naruto wins

THANK YOU!!! Atleast someone is paying attention lol

[Lord Ikimichi]

THANK YOU!!! Atleast someone is paying attention lol

namean bro lol

[Rurouni Shinobi]

2nd curse seal orochimaru said it himself.

[Shinichi]

naruto could win but sasuke has his sharingan and all so maybe a tie

[ObitoXLover]

its pretty obvious its sauske, whether you guys like it or not or want to admit it or not. he beat the 8 tailed bijui...so why couldnt he beat naruto 4 tails, adding on the curse seal and his ms. its just common sense

No he didn't XD Sasuke technically LOST that fight. In the end, Killerbee had just basically tricked them. And Kyuubi is also the strongest of the Bijuu. Then there's the fact that Naruto, in his FOUR-TAILED STATE, would NOT allow Sasuke the TIME to use one of his strongest techniques.

[Sharp]

8gate rocklee wins ftw

[Josh-sama]

Bring on Lee! He'll just own them both with his sexy green jumpsuit xD